Another top 25 for 2011
A new web site
HalfWheel has posted a more realistic top 25 list than the dopes over at CA.
You can go to the page and read how they came up with their list, and read reviews on each cigar.
I have to say this is a much better looking list of stuff I would like to smoke
Anyhow here is the list they came up with:
CONSENSUS TOP 25 FOR 2011
1. Undercrown (Drew Estate | La Gran Fabrica Drew Estate | Estelí, Nicaragua)
2. San Lotano Oval (A.J. Fernandez | Tabacalera Fernandez | Estelí, Nicaragua)
3. E.P Carrillo NWC (E.P. Carrillo | Tabacalera La Alianza S.A. | Santiago, Dominican Republic)
4. Emilio Grimalkin (Emilio Cigars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
5. Casa Magna Domus Magnus (Quesada/SAG Imports | Plasencia Cigars S.A., Estelí, Nicaragua)
6. Adrians CroMagnon (Adrians/Galveston Bay Tobacco LLC | n/a | Estelí, Nicaragua)
7. Tatuaje La Casita Criolla (Havana Cellars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
8. Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero (Havana Cellars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
9. Four Kicks (Crowned Heads | Tabacalera La Alianza S.A. | Santiago, Dominican Republic)
10. Quesada Selección España (Quesada/SAG Imports | The Quesada Factory | Licey, Dominican Republic)
11. My Father Le Bijou 1922 (My Father Cigars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
12. Illusione Epernay (Illusione | Fabrica de Tabacos Raíces Cubanas S. de R.L. | Danlí, Honduras)
13. Quesada Oktoberfest (Quesada/SAG Imports | MATASA | Santiago, Dominican Republic)
14. Tatuaje Avion 2011 (Havana Cellars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
15. Emilio AF1 (Emilio Cigars | Tabacalera Fernandez | Estelí, Nicaragua)
16. Padrón 1964 SI-15 (PILOTO Cigars Inc. | Tabacos Cubanica S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
17. Room 101 LTD Namakubi (Room 101 Cigars | Tabacos Rancho Jamastran | El Paraiso, Honduras)
18. Jaime Garcia Reserva Especial Limited Edition 2011 (My Father Cigars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
19. E.P Carrillo Edición Limitada 2011 “Dark Rituals” (E.P. Carrillo | Tabacalera La Alianza S.A. | Santiago, Dominican Republic)
20. La Flor Dominicana Colorado Oscuro (La Flor Dominicana | Tabacalera La Flor S.A. | Tamboril, Dominican Republic)
21. My Father El Hijo (My Father Cigars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
22. Viaje Exclusivo Tower Cigars 45th (Viaje Cigars | Fabrica de Tabacos Raíces Cubanas S. de R.L. | Danlí, Honduras)
23. Tatuaje Fausto (Havana Cellars| My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
24. Tatuaje The Wolfman (Havana Cellars| My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
25. Man O’ War Armada (Cigars International | Tabacalera Fernandez | Estelí, Nicaragua)
In case anyone is wondering how some of the CA darlings did:
Alec Bradley Prensado (CA #1, Consensus #36)
La Aroma de Cuba Mi Amor (CA #2, Consensus #37)
Warlock (CA #9, Consensus #49)
No Cuban cigars? Sorry but I call fail equal to CA's fail.
Wow. Lots on that list that I have not tried & sound interesting!
Originally Posted By gopeterson:
No Cuban cigars? Sorry but I call fail equal to CA's fail.
Nope no cubans.
They explain it on the web page somewhere that there were not enough cuban cigars reviewed to include them.
I believe they used over 40 published sources to compile the list, go figure.
Personally I don't know anything about cuban cigars so I wouldn't even know if any 2011 cuban releases would belong on the list or not.
Undercrown #1? It's a good smoke, but cigar of the year?
Cigar Journal's list
The finest Cigars of 2011 are:
1)Padron Family Reserve No. 85 Maduro (Nicaragua)
2)San Lotano Oval Robusto (Nicaragua)
3)Master By Carlos Torano Churchill (Nicragua)
4)Cain Daytona 654 Torpedo (Nicaragua)
5)La Gloria Cubana Immensos (Cuba)
6)My Father Le Bijou 1922 Toro (Nicaragua)
7)Fuente Fuente OpusX Fuente Fuente (Dominican Republic)
8)Gurkha Cellar Reserve Churchill XO (Dominican Republic)
9)J. Fuego Origin Original (Honduras)
10)Rocky Patel 15th Anniversary Corona Gorda (Nicaragua)
11)Man O' War Torpedo (Nicaragua)
12)La Flor Dominicana Oscuro Natural L-500 (Dominican Republic)
13)CAO OSA Sol Lot 50 (Honduras)
14)Tatuaje The 7th Capa Especial (Nicaragua)
15)Illusione Epernay 2009 Serie L'Alpiniste (Honduras)
16)Alec Bradley Family Blend VR1 (Honduras)
17)Cain F Habano / Sun Grown 550 (Nicaragua)
18)Cohiba Behike 56 (Cuba)
19)Davidoff Puro D'Oro Momentos (Dominican Republic)
20)La Palina El Diario Robusto (Honduras)
21)Romeo Y Julieta Wide Churchills (Cuba)
22)Rocky Patel The Edge Toro Corojo (Honduras)
23)Ashton VSG Robusto (Dominican Republic)
24)Flor De Copan Linea Puros Robusto (Honduras)
25)Bolivar Belicosos Finos (Cuba)
I saw the cigar journal list a few weeks ago before these other two. Now it's a list I can get behind. Some real good stuff on there. Padron 85 cigar of the year? Now that I can agree with.
Still looks lke a things to do list for 2012

CONSENSUS TOP 25 FOR 2011
1. Undercrown (Drew Estate | La Gran Fabrica Drew Estate | Estelí, Nicaragua)
2. San Lotano Oval (A.J. Fernandez | Tabacalera Fernandez | Estelí, Nicaragua)
3. E.P Carrillo NWC (E.P. Carrillo | Tabacalera La Alianza S.A. | Santiago, Dominican Republic)
4. Emilio Grimalkin (Emilio Cigars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
5. Casa Magna Domus Magnus (Quesada/SAG Imports | Plasencia Cigars S.A., Estelí, Nicaragua)
6. Adrians CroMagnon (Adrians/Galveston Bay Tobacco LLC | n/a | Estelí, Nicaragua)
7. Tatuaje La Casita Criolla (Havana Cellars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
8. Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero (Havana Cellars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
9. Four Kicks (Crowned Heads | Tabacalera La Alianza S.A. | Santiago, Dominican Republic)
10. Quesada Selección España (Quesada/SAG Imports | The Quesada Factory | Licey, Dominican Republic)
11. My Father Le Bijou 1922 (My Father Cigars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
12. Illusione Epernay (Illusione | Fabrica de Tabacos Raíces Cubanas S. de R.L. | Danlí, Honduras)
13. Quesada Oktoberfest (Quesada/SAG Imports | MATASA | Santiago, Dominican Republic)
14. Tatuaje Avion 2011 (Havana Cellars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
15. Emilio AF1 (Emilio Cigars | Tabacalera Fernandez | Estelí, Nicaragua)
16. Padrón 1964 SI-15 (PILOTO Cigars Inc. | Tabacos Cubanica S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
17. Room 101 LTD Namakubi (Room 101 Cigars | Tabacos Rancho Jamastran | El Paraiso, Honduras)
18. Jaime Garcia Reserva Especial Limited Edition 2011 (My Father Cigars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
19. E.P Carrillo Edición Limitada 2011 “Dark Rituals” (E.P. Carrillo | Tabacalera La Alianza S.A. | Santiago, Dominican Republic)
20. La Flor Dominicana Colorado Oscuro (La Flor Dominicana | Tabacalera La Flor S.A. | Tamboril, Dominican Republic)
21. My Father El Hijo (My Father Cigars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
22. Viaje Exclusivo Tower Cigars 45th (Viaje Cigars | Fabrica de Tabacos Raíces Cubanas S. de R.L. | Danlí, Honduras)
23. Tatuaje Fausto (Havana Cellars| My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
24. Tatuaje The Wolfman (Havana Cellars| My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
25. Man O’ War Armada (Cigars International | Tabacalera Fernandez | Estelí, Nicaragua)
I agree with a lot of those selections, but not the order.
ive been wanting to try a under crown guess i have a "reason" to now

Originally Posted By Askonison:
A new web site
HalfWheel has posted a more realistic top 25 list than the dopes over at CA.
You can go to the page and read how they came up with their list, and read reviews on each cigar.
I have to say this is a much better looking list of stuff I would like to smoke
Anyhow here is the list they came up with:
CONSENSUS TOP 25 FOR 2011
1. Undercrown (Drew Estate | La Gran Fabrica Drew Estate | Estelí, Nicaragua)
2. San Lotano Oval (A.J. Fernandez | Tabacalera Fernandez | Estelí, Nicaragua)
3. E.P Carrillo NWC (E.P. Carrillo | Tabacalera La Alianza S.A. | Santiago, Dominican Republic)
4. Emilio Grimalkin (Emilio Cigars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
5. Casa Magna Domus Magnus (Quesada/SAG Imports | Plasencia Cigars S.A., Estelí, Nicaragua)
6. Adrians CroMagnon (Adrians/Galveston Bay Tobacco LLC | n/a | Estelí, Nicaragua)
7. Tatuaje La Casita Criolla (Havana Cellars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
8. Tatuaje Black Label Petite Lancero (Havana Cellars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
9. Four Kicks (Crowned Heads | Tabacalera La Alianza S.A. | Santiago, Dominican Republic)
10. Quesada Selección España (Quesada/SAG Imports | The Quesada Factory | Licey, Dominican Republic)
11. My Father Le Bijou 1922 (My Father Cigars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
12. Illusione Epernay (Illusione | Fabrica de Tabacos Raíces Cubanas S. de R.L. | Danlí, Honduras)
13. Quesada Oktoberfest (Quesada/SAG Imports | MATASA | Santiago, Dominican Republic)
14. Tatuaje Avion 2011 (Havana Cellars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
15. Emilio AF1 (Emilio Cigars | Tabacalera Fernandez | Estelí, Nicaragua)
16. Padrón 1964 SI-15 (PILOTO Cigars Inc. | Tabacos Cubanica S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
17. Room 101 LTD Namakubi (Room 101 Cigars | Tabacos Rancho Jamastran | El Paraiso, Honduras)
18. Jaime Garcia Reserva Especial Limited Edition 2011 (My Father Cigars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
19. E.P Carrillo Edición Limitada 2011 “Dark Rituals” (E.P. Carrillo | Tabacalera La Alianza S.A. | Santiago, Dominican Republic)
20. La Flor Dominicana Colorado Oscuro (La Flor Dominicana | Tabacalera La Flor S.A. | Tamboril, Dominican Republic)
21. My Father El Hijo (My Father Cigars | My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
22. Viaje Exclusivo Tower Cigars 45th (Viaje Cigars | Fabrica de Tabacos Raíces Cubanas S. de R.L. | Danlí, Honduras)
23. Tatuaje Fausto (Havana Cellars| My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
24. Tatuaje The Wolfman (Havana Cellars| My Father Cigars S.A. | Estelí, Nicaragua)
25. Man O’ War Armada (Cigars International | Tabacalera Fernandez | Estelí, Nicaragua)
In case anyone is wondering how some of the CA darlings did:
Alec Bradley Prensado (CA #1, Consensus #36)
La Aroma de Cuba Mi Amor (CA #2, Consensus #37)
Warlock (CA #9, Consensus #49)
Holy shit, CA had the Prensado at #1?
I got 5 of them probably a year ago in Joe's Daily Deals, smoked one and still have the rest. Underwhelmed to say the least.
20% of the cigars are Tatuaje
I'd be much more likely to smoke these than CA's list, but it just goes to show how biased all of these lists really are.
I like this list much better than CA's crap.
I also like this list much better....except for the #1....I mean it was good but the best???
MOW Armada came in last?
whats the msrp on those? isnt it like $30-50 per stick
I only have one so I will let it rest for a good while
Originally Posted By bigrob88:
MOW Armada came in last?
whats the msrp on those? isnt it like $30-50 per stick
I only have one so I will let it rest for a good while
only $20 but could still be found in other various samplers for cheaper.
Originally Posted By l1zardking:
Originally Posted By bigrob88:
MOW Armada came in last?
whats the msrp on those? isnt it like $30-50 per stick
I only have one so I will let it rest for a good while
only $20 but could still be found in other various samplers for cheaper.
yep I got mine in a MOW sampler for $48 on freefall
Originally Posted By YELLOWV:
Undercrown #1? It's a good smoke, but cigar of the year?
+1
Bill
Originally Posted By bass_ackwardz:
Originally Posted By YELLOWV:
Undercrown #1? It's a good smoke, but cigar of the year?
+1
Bill
Is there an echo in here.....

....couldn't resist.
I really want to try a TAT Wolfman, but can't find any for crap.
Kind of funny how lists change from place to place. Most of the cigars on this list I havent even heard of.
Originally Posted By YELLOWV:
I really want to try a TAT Wolfman, but can't find any for crap.
There's a box on Ebay right now........
Originally Posted By bigrob88:
Originally Posted By l1zardking:
Originally Posted By bigrob88:
MOW Armada came in last?
whats the msrp on those? isnt it like $30-50 per stick
I only have one so I will let it rest for a good while
only $20 but could still be found in other various samplers for cheaper.
yep I got mine in a MOW sampler for $48 on freefall
Yeah, I grabbed 5 of those tins I think, never paid more than $46. 1 Armada, 3 MoW, 3 Ruination, 3 Virtue per tin. Good deal, IMO.
Originally Posted By Tarkington:
Originally Posted By YELLOWV:
I really want to try a TAT Wolfman, but can't find any for crap.
There's a box on Ebay right now........
Aint lookin to spend that much brother.
Originally Posted By YELLOWV:
Originally Posted By Tarkington:
Originally Posted By YELLOWV:
I really want to try a TAT Wolfman, but can't find any for crap.
There's a box on Ebay right now........
Aint lookin to spend that much brother.
That'd be crazy collectors I guess.
I think if you missed them at the release, good luck til next year.
Wish I had one to send you.......
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Originally Posted By Tarkington:
Originally Posted By YELLOWV:
Originally Posted By Tarkington:
Originally Posted By YELLOWV:
I really want to try a TAT Wolfman, but can't find any for crap.
There's a box on Ebay right now........
Aint lookin to spend that much brother.
That'd be crazy collectors I guess.
I think if you missed them at the release, good luck til next year.
Wish I had one to send you.......
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Probably the same thing that happens with Oppies...a lot of mystique drives up the price.
Originally Posted By YELLOWV:
I really want to try a TAT Wolfman, but can't find any for crap.
I could have hooked you up as late as a month ago, found a local retailer that had gotten some of the boxes and I was able to snag one. Smoked through them pretty fast though.

Saw Undercrown at #1, rolled my eyes and stopped reading.
Originally Posted By PBIR:
Originally Posted By YELLOWV:
I really want to try a TAT Wolfman, but can't find any for crap.
I could have hooked you up as late as a month ago, found a local retailer that had gotten some of the boxes and I was able to snag one. Smoked through them pretty fast though.

