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CNN "drops" feed about Ron Paul
1/4/2012 6:30:51 AM
sure seems like a funny time for a feed to cut out, never seen that happen before on CNN...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_AQnegSXMw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_AQnegSXMw
1/4/2012 6:35:26 AM
Nope. Connections have never been lost before. 
So this guy has been in 10 years, and is only a Corporal? Sounds like a major loser.
So this guy has been in 10 years, and is only a Corporal? Sounds like a major loser.
1/4/2012 10:05:15 AM
Originally Posted By bytor94:
Nope. Connections have never been lost before.
So this guy has been in 10 years, and is only a Corporal? Sounds like a major loser.
Nope. Connections have never been lost before.
So this guy has been in 10 years, and is only a Corporal? Sounds like a major loser.
c'mon, that didn't seem fishy to you at all?
I thought the same thing, perhaps he was stuck in an mos that requires max promotion points. Hence him being a cpl and not a spc.
1/5/2012 9:00:42 AM
That IS mysterious.
Why would CNN deliberately cut the REMF douchebag off, when he's making a far left comment?
Why would CNN deliberately cut the REMF douchebag off, when he's making a far left comment?
1/5/2012 9:04:28 AM
This MUST be a conspiracy...because CNN is well known for their conservative bias.
1/5/2012 3:13:58 PM
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
1/5/2012 8:22:49 PM
Originally Posted By munkalido:
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
CCN wouldn't give a crap about that.
They would probably promote it even more.
1/7/2012 7:07:29 PM
Originally Posted By munkalido:
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
1/7/2012 8:11:21 PM
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Originally Posted By munkalido:
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
1/7/2012 8:31:36 PM
Originally Posted By acogmike:
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Originally Posted By munkalido:
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
1/7/2012 9:54:22 PM
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
Originally Posted By acogmike:
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Originally Posted By munkalido:
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
All that shit is petty in comparison to the big picture. Acknowledge the real conservative here. You may not agree with him on everything and I don't either. But at least he has integrity and can't be bought and paid for like the rest of these guys.
1/7/2012 10:03:24 PM
Dr. Ron Paul the conservative?
I always thought he was an independent.
How politically expedient that he's a conservative now.
Let's see what happens to Dr. Ron Paul the "conservative" after he doesn't get the GOP nomination.
I always thought he was an independent.
How politically expedient that he's a conservative now.
Let's see what happens to Dr. Ron Paul the "conservative" after he doesn't get the GOP nomination.
1/7/2012 11:05:25 PM
Do you know what the term conservative means? And can you honestly say there is anyone more conservative out there?
Ron Paul is gaining momentum with his message and by sticking to the issues that matter and by being true to his beliefs. He has NO help from the media, and it doesn't matter either. He probably won't be the nominee, but he WILL bring the REAL issues to the front. If you watched the debate tonight, you can't deny the fact that he mopped the floor with the other candidates.
And your signature echoes the message that ONLY Ron Paul would restore.
Ron Paul is gaining momentum with his message and by sticking to the issues that matter and by being true to his beliefs. He has NO help from the media, and it doesn't matter either. He probably won't be the nominee, but he WILL bring the REAL issues to the front. If you watched the debate tonight, you can't deny the fact that he mopped the floor with the other candidates.
And your signature echoes the message that ONLY Ron Paul would restore.
1/7/2012 11:27:26 PM
DoD Directive No.1344.10
The Corporal is fucked.
4.1.2. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty shall not:
4.1.2.5. Speak before a partisan political gathering, including any gathering that promotes a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.
4.1.2.6. Participate in any radio, television, or other program or group discussion as an advocate for or against a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.
4.1.4. Subject to any other restrictions in law, a member of the Armed Forces not on active duty may take the actions or participate in the activities permitted in subparagraph 4.1.1., and may take the actions and participate in the activities prohibited in subparagraph 4.1.2, provided the member is not in uniform and does not otherwise act in a manner that could reasonably give rise to the inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement.
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The Corporal is fucked.
4.1.2. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty shall not:
4.1.2.5. Speak before a partisan political gathering, including any gathering that promotes a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.
4.1.2.6. Participate in any radio, television, or other program or group discussion as an advocate for or against a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.
4.1.4. Subject to any other restrictions in law, a member of the Armed Forces not on active duty may take the actions or participate in the activities permitted in subparagraph 4.1.1., and may take the actions and participate in the activities prohibited in subparagraph 4.1.2, provided the member is not in uniform and does not otherwise act in a manner that could reasonably give rise to the inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement.
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1/8/2012 7:42:13 AM
Originally Posted By acogmike:
Do you know what the term conservative means? And can you honestly say there is anyone more conservative out there?
Ron Paul is gaining momentum with his message and by sticking to the issues that matter and by being true to his beliefs. He has NO help from the media, and it doesn't matter either. He probably won't be the nominee, but he WILL bring the REAL issues to the front. If you watched the debate tonight, you can't deny the fact that he mopped the floor with the other candidates.
And your signature echoes the message that ONLY Ron Paul would restore.
Do you know what the term conservative means? And can you honestly say there is anyone more conservative out there?
Ron Paul is gaining momentum with his message and by sticking to the issues that matter and by being true to his beliefs. He has NO help from the media, and it doesn't matter either. He probably won't be the nominee, but he WILL bring the REAL issues to the front. If you watched the debate tonight, you can't deny the fact that he mopped the floor with the other candidates.
And your signature echoes the message that ONLY Ron Paul would restore.
I think I understand exactly what conservative means.
(Small/limited govt, fiscally responsible, leans toward traditional values, a strong military, god fearing, and law abiding) pretty much sum it up for you?
Legalizing drugs, ignoring our allies, gay marriage, and sticking your head in the sand to our enemies does not a "conservative" make.
Still gonna stick with Dr. Paul when he doesn't win the nomination, and goes independent?
1/8/2012 7:53:34 AM
Originally Posted By acogmike:
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Originally Posted By munkalido:
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
Occupying their land? Occupation by a military force is when you have troops on the ground against the wishes of the governing body of that land. So before Iraq and Afghanistan, whose land were we occupying again?
To say ron paul is batshit crazy about US presence throughout the world is a galactic understatement. Guy's out of touch with reality in the world of international relations.
1/8/2012 8:08:54 AM
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
I think I understand exactly what conservative means.
(Small/limited govt, fiscally responsible, leans toward traditional values, a strong military, god fearing, and law abiding) pretty much sum it up for you?
Legalizing drugs, ignoring our allies, gay marriage, and sticking your head in the sand to our enemies does not a "conservative" make.
Still gonna stick with Dr. Paul when he doesn't win the nomination, and goes independent?
Originally Posted By acogmike:
Do you know what the term conservative means? And can you honestly say there is anyone more conservative out there?
Ron Paul is gaining momentum with his message and by sticking to the issues that matter and by being true to his beliefs. He has NO help from the media, and it doesn't matter either. He probably won't be the nominee, but he WILL bring the REAL issues to the front. If you watched the debate tonight, you can't deny the fact that he mopped the floor with the other candidates.
And your signature echoes the message that ONLY Ron Paul would restore.
Do you know what the term conservative means? And can you honestly say there is anyone more conservative out there?
Ron Paul is gaining momentum with his message and by sticking to the issues that matter and by being true to his beliefs. He has NO help from the media, and it doesn't matter either. He probably won't be the nominee, but he WILL bring the REAL issues to the front. If you watched the debate tonight, you can't deny the fact that he mopped the floor with the other candidates.
And your signature echoes the message that ONLY Ron Paul would restore.
I think I understand exactly what conservative means.
(Small/limited govt, fiscally responsible, leans toward traditional values, a strong military, god fearing, and law abiding) pretty much sum it up for you?
Legalizing drugs, ignoring our allies, gay marriage, and sticking your head in the sand to our enemies does not a "conservative" make.
Still gonna stick with Dr. Paul when he doesn't win the nomination, and goes independent?
Conservative means to conserve the constitution. And yea, the war on drugs is just as effective as prohibition.
and I will vote for Paul if he goes independent, and don't say that guarantees another victory for Obama. Because right now, Obama is praying that he doesn't have to debate Ron Paul and the media is doing everything in their power to make guys like you and the rest of America stay in their fear induced sleep for as long as possible. If Iran even as much as farts the wrong way, Paul would smoke em. But pre-emptive wars are unconstitutional and we flat out can't afford it.
Thx for the healthy debate
1/8/2012 9:59:43 AM
Originally Posted By dixiedawg:
That IS mysterious.
Why would CNN deliberately cut the REMF douchebag off, when he's making a far left comment?
That IS mysterious.
Why would CNN deliberately cut the REMF douchebag off, when he's making a far left comment?
Rest assured, the liberals hate libertarians far, far more than conservatives. They know that conservatives will not actually endeavor to shrink the state. They fear that libertarians will.
1/8/2012 10:00:21 AM
Originally Posted By bytor94:
CCN wouldn't give a crap about that.
They would probably promote it even more.
Originally Posted By munkalido:
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
CCN wouldn't give a crap about that.
They would probably promote it even more.
They would if he were doing it for Obama.
1/8/2012 10:01:36 AM
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
Originally Posted By acogmike:
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Originally Posted By munkalido:
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
All of those "real" conservatives support the new deal. Most of them support the great society. Wow, I'm so impressed by their limited government credentials.
1/8/2012 10:18:32 AM
Originally Posted By dan45678:
All of those "real" conservatives support the new deal. Most of them support the great society. Wow, I'm so impressed by their limited government credentials.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
Originally Posted By acogmike:
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Originally Posted By munkalido:
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
All of those "real" conservatives support the new deal. Most of them support the great society. Wow, I'm so impressed by their limited government credentials.
What?
Kinda early to be drinking on a sunday morning isn't it.
1/8/2012 10:23:25 AM
Originally Posted By acogmike:
All that shit is petty in comparison to the big picture. Acknowledge the real conservative here. You may not agree with him on everything and I don't either. But at least he has integrity and can't be bought and paid for like the rest of these guys.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
Originally Posted By acogmike:
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Originally Posted By munkalido:
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
All that shit is petty in comparison to the big picture. Acknowledge the real conservative here. You may not agree with him on everything and I don't either. But at least he has integrity and can't be bought and paid for like the rest of these guys.
Yeah, all that shit is petty campared to what Ron Paul and his loon supporters do......nothing. You flap your fucking gums while Levin and Landmark Legal bring suit. I'm fucking tired of hearing from people like you. STFU.
1/8/2012 10:24:48 AM
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
What?
Kinda early to be drinking on a sunday morning isn't it.
Originally Posted By dan45678:
All of those "real" conservatives support the new deal. Most of them support the great society. Wow, I'm so impressed by their limited government credentials.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
Originally Posted By acogmike:
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Originally Posted By munkalido:
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
All of those "real" conservatives support the new deal. Most of them support the great society. Wow, I'm so impressed by their limited government credentials.
What?
Kinda early to be drinking on a sunday morning isn't it.
I really don't know too many conservatives who advocate getting rid of social security and medicare. Do you?
1/8/2012 10:26:38 AM
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
Yeah, all that shit is petty campared to what Ron Paul and his loon supporters do......nothing. You flap your fucking gums while Levin and Landmark Legal bring suit. I'm fucking tired of hearing from people like you. STFU.
Originally Posted By acogmike:
All that shit is petty in comparison to the big picture. Acknowledge the real conservative here. You may not agree with him on everything and I don't either. But at least he has integrity and can't be bought and paid for like the rest of these guys.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
Originally Posted By acogmike:
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Originally Posted By munkalido:
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
All that shit is petty in comparison to the big picture. Acknowledge the real conservative here. You may not agree with him on everything and I don't either. But at least he has integrity and can't be bought and paid for like the rest of these guys.
Yeah, all that shit is petty campared to what Ron Paul and his loon supporters do......nothing. You flap your fucking gums while Levin and Landmark Legal bring suit. I'm fucking tired of hearing from people like you. STFU.
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
1/8/2012 10:46:47 AM
Originally Posted By dan45678:
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
Anyone in congress can "introduce" legislation. But most legislation doesn't go anywhere unless it has support. Something that Paulbots don't seem to understand. Paul has been in congress for a few decades and hasn't accomplished much more than earmarking massive amounts of money to pet projects (but he votes against it after which makes it ok
)
He hasn't made the central banks unpopular, the growing populist movements and 99% er homos have pretty much made all banks seem like the bad guys. Paulbots are almost as delusional as Al Gore at this point. It was Ron Paul who really invented the Internet, right?
I can't wait until this election is over and I don't have to hear from the Internet cancer that is RP supporters anymore. Oh wait, I forgot, RP has a son and his nut barnacles will probably attach themselves to him. So for the next 30 years we will have to hear "Rand Paul 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, etc, etc." I can't wait.....
1/8/2012 10:59:04 AM
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
Anyone in congress can "introduce" legislation. But most legislation doesn't go anywhere unless it has support. Something that Paulbots don't seem to understand. Paul has been in congress for a few decades and hasn't accomplished much more than earmarking massive amounts of money to pet projects (but he votes against it after which makes it ok)
He hasn't made the central banks unpopular, the growing populist movements and 99% er homos have pretty much made all banks seem like the bad guys. Paulbots are almost as delusional as Al Gore at this point. It was Ron Paul who really invented the Internet, right?
I can't wait until this election is over and I don't have to hear from the Internet cancer that is RP supporters anymore. Oh wait, I forgot, RP has a son and his nut barnacles will probably attach themselves to him. So for the next 30 years we will have to hear "Rand Paul 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, etc, etc." I can't wait.....
Originally Posted By dan45678:
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
Anyone in congress can "introduce" legislation. But most legislation doesn't go anywhere unless it has support. Something that Paulbots don't seem to understand. Paul has been in congress for a few decades and hasn't accomplished much more than earmarking massive amounts of money to pet projects (but he votes against it after which makes it ok
)
He hasn't made the central banks unpopular, the growing populist movements and 99% er homos have pretty much made all banks seem like the bad guys. Paulbots are almost as delusional as Al Gore at this point. It was Ron Paul who really invented the Internet, right?
I can't wait until this election is over and I don't have to hear from the Internet cancer that is RP supporters anymore. Oh wait, I forgot, RP has a son and his nut barnacles will probably attach themselves to him. So for the next 30 years we will have to hear "Rand Paul 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, etc, etc." I can't wait.....
I'm not going to hold your hand on this one and walk you through this one. Educate yourself on what earmarks actually are. I know the idiot you chose to nominate last round blabbered on and on about earmarks, but they aren't the issue. The spending is. Earmarks don't add spending. They keep the power for spending money in the congress and not the executive branch. To attack Ron Paul on this issue is to take the position that you want Obama to be more powerful and get to choose how to spend the money on something like a BS "clean energy bill" that Ron Paul voted against.
You hate to give him in credit, but he has been a very large reason for the public opinion of the federal reserve and the ability of the government to steal from people by printing money and borrowing money. If you want to end big government, the FED is largely the body that finances it all.
I'm sorry he didn't run around and introduce legislation that was politically correct in order to get votes and support. He wants actual change. He doesn't want to tinker with the system a little bit and expect it to change the course of the country. The changes required are massive.
And hell yes, Rand Paul 20_ _.
1/8/2012 11:30:17 AM
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
Anyone in congress can "introduce" legislation. But most legislation doesn't go anywhere unless it has support. Something that Paulbots don't seem to understand. Paul has been in congress for a few decades and hasn't accomplished much more than earmarking massive amounts of money to pet projects (but he votes against it after which makes it ok)
He hasn't made the central banks unpopular, the growing populist movements and 99% er homos have pretty much made all banks seem like the bad guys. Paulbots are almost as delusional as Al Gore at this point. It was Ron Paul who really invented the Internet, right?
I can't wait until this election is over and I don't have to hear from the Internet cancer that is RP supporters anymore. Oh wait, I forgot, RP has a son and his nut barnacles will probably attach themselves to him. So for the next 30 years we will have to hear "Rand Paul 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, etc, etc." I can't wait.....
Originally Posted By dan45678:
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
Anyone in congress can "introduce" legislation. But most legislation doesn't go anywhere unless it has support. Something that Paulbots don't seem to understand. Paul has been in congress for a few decades and hasn't accomplished much more than earmarking massive amounts of money to pet projects (but he votes against it after which makes it ok
)
He hasn't made the central banks unpopular, the growing populist movements and 99% er homos have pretty much made all banks seem like the bad guys. Paulbots are almost as delusional as Al Gore at this point. It was Ron Paul who really invented the Internet, right?
I can't wait until this election is over and I don't have to hear from the Internet cancer that is RP supporters anymore. Oh wait, I forgot, RP has a son and his nut barnacles will probably attach themselves to him. So for the next 30 years we will have to hear "Rand Paul 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, etc, etc." I can't wait.....
What is he supposed to? There are no other libertarians in congress.
The occupy wall street movement is generally silent on the issue of the Fed. Notice they camp out at Wall Street and not in front of the New York Fed. It is Austrian economics inspired libertarians (Ron Paul being one) who have labored for decades to expose the Fed.
1/8/2012 11:32:25 AM
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
I'm not going to hold your hand on this one and walk you through this one. Educate yourself on what earmarks actually are. I know the idiot you chose to nominate last round blabbered on and on about earmarks, but they aren't the issue. The spending is. Earmarks don't add spending. They keep the power for spending money in the congress and not the executive branch. To attack Ron Paul on this issue is to take the position that you want Obama to be more powerful and get to choose how to spend the money on something like a BS "clean energy bill" that Ron Paul voted against.
You hate to give him in credit, but he has been a very large reason for the public opinion of the federal reserve and the ability of the government to steal from people by printing money and borrowing money. If you want to end big government, the FED is largely the body that finances it all.
I'm sorry he didn't run around and introduce legislation that was politically correct in order to get votes and support. He wants actual change. He doesn't want to tinker with the system a little bit and expect it to change the course of the country. The changes required are massive.
And hell yes, Rand Paul 20_ _.
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
Anyone in congress can "introduce" legislation. But most legislation doesn't go anywhere unless it has support. Something that Paulbots don't seem to understand. Paul has been in congress for a few decades and hasn't accomplished much more than earmarking massive amounts of money to pet projects (but he votes against it after which makes it ok)
He hasn't made the central banks unpopular, the growing populist movements and 99% er homos have pretty much made all banks seem like the bad guys. Paulbots are almost as delusional as Al Gore at this point. It was Ron Paul who really invented the Internet, right?
I can't wait until this election is over and I don't have to hear from the Internet cancer that is RP supporters anymore. Oh wait, I forgot, RP has a son and his nut barnacles will probably attach themselves to him. So for the next 30 years we will have to hear "Rand Paul 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, etc, etc." I can't wait.....
Originally Posted By dan45678:
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
Anyone in congress can "introduce" legislation. But most legislation doesn't go anywhere unless it has support. Something that Paulbots don't seem to understand. Paul has been in congress for a few decades and hasn't accomplished much more than earmarking massive amounts of money to pet projects (but he votes against it after which makes it ok
)
He hasn't made the central banks unpopular, the growing populist movements and 99% er homos have pretty much made all banks seem like the bad guys. Paulbots are almost as delusional as Al Gore at this point. It was Ron Paul who really invented the Internet, right?
I can't wait until this election is over and I don't have to hear from the Internet cancer that is RP supporters anymore. Oh wait, I forgot, RP has a son and his nut barnacles will probably attach themselves to him. So for the next 30 years we will have to hear "Rand Paul 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, etc, etc." I can't wait.....
I'm not going to hold your hand on this one and walk you through this one. Educate yourself on what earmarks actually are. I know the idiot you chose to nominate last round blabbered on and on about earmarks, but they aren't the issue. The spending is. Earmarks don't add spending. They keep the power for spending money in the congress and not the executive branch. To attack Ron Paul on this issue is to take the position that you want Obama to be more powerful and get to choose how to spend the money on something like a BS "clean energy bill" that Ron Paul voted against.
You hate to give him in credit, but he has been a very large reason for the public opinion of the federal reserve and the ability of the government to steal from people by printing money and borrowing money. If you want to end big government, the FED is largely the body that finances it all.
I'm sorry he didn't run around and introduce legislation that was politically correct in order to get votes and support. He wants actual change. He doesn't want to tinker with the system a little bit and expect it to change the course of the country. The changes required are massive.
And hell yes, Rand Paul 20_ _.
This is the correct right here. The source of big government is access to lots and lots of money.
This is the strategy that would end big government
1/8/2012 11:38:15 AM
Originally Posted By dan45678:
What is he supposed to? There are no other libertarians in congress.
The occupy wall street movement is generally silent on the issue of the Fed. Notice they camp out at Wall Street and not in front of the New York Fed. It is Austrian economics inspired libertarians (Ron Paul being one) who have labored for decades to expose the Fed.
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
Anyone in congress can "introduce" legislation. But most legislation doesn't go anywhere unless it has support. Something that Paulbots don't seem to understand. Paul has been in congress for a few decades and hasn't accomplished much more than earmarking massive amounts of money to pet projects (but he votes against it after which makes it ok)
He hasn't made the central banks unpopular, the growing populist movements and 99% er homos have pretty much made all banks seem like the bad guys. Paulbots are almost as delusional as Al Gore at this point. It was Ron Paul who really invented the Internet, right?
I can't wait until this election is over and I don't have to hear from the Internet cancer that is RP supporters anymore. Oh wait, I forgot, RP has a son and his nut barnacles will probably attach themselves to him. So for the next 30 years we will have to hear "Rand Paul 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, etc, etc." I can't wait.....
Originally Posted By dan45678:
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
Anyone in congress can "introduce" legislation. But most legislation doesn't go anywhere unless it has support. Something that Paulbots don't seem to understand. Paul has been in congress for a few decades and hasn't accomplished much more than earmarking massive amounts of money to pet projects (but he votes against it after which makes it ok
)
He hasn't made the central banks unpopular, the growing populist movements and 99% er homos have pretty much made all banks seem like the bad guys. Paulbots are almost as delusional as Al Gore at this point. It was Ron Paul who really invented the Internet, right?
I can't wait until this election is over and I don't have to hear from the Internet cancer that is RP supporters anymore. Oh wait, I forgot, RP has a son and his nut barnacles will probably attach themselves to him. So for the next 30 years we will have to hear "Rand Paul 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, etc, etc." I can't wait.....
What is he supposed to? There are no other libertarians in congress.
The occupy wall street movement is generally silent on the issue of the Fed. Notice they camp out at Wall Street and not in front of the New York Fed. It is Austrian economics inspired libertarians (Ron Paul being one) who have labored for decades to expose the Fed.
Which is why he's doing the politically expedient thing by running on a GOP ticket.
1/8/2012 11:50:09 AM
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
Which is why he's doing the politically expedient thing by running on a GOP ticket.
Originally Posted By dan45678:
What is he supposed to? There are no other libertarians in congress.
The occupy wall street movement is generally silent on the issue of the Fed. Notice they camp out at Wall Street and not in front of the New York Fed. It is Austrian economics inspired libertarians (Ron Paul being one) who have labored for decades to expose the Fed.
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
Anyone in congress can "introduce" legislation. But most legislation doesn't go anywhere unless it has support. Something that Paulbots don't seem to understand. Paul has been in congress for a few decades and hasn't accomplished much more than earmarking massive amounts of money to pet projects (but he votes against it after which makes it ok)
He hasn't made the central banks unpopular, the growing populist movements and 99% er homos have pretty much made all banks seem like the bad guys. Paulbots are almost as delusional as Al Gore at this point. It was Ron Paul who really invented the Internet, right?
I can't wait until this election is over and I don't have to hear from the Internet cancer that is RP supporters anymore. Oh wait, I forgot, RP has a son and his nut barnacles will probably attach themselves to him. So for the next 30 years we will have to hear "Rand Paul 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, etc, etc." I can't wait.....
Originally Posted By dan45678:
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
Anyone in congress can "introduce" legislation. But most legislation doesn't go anywhere unless it has support. Something that Paulbots don't seem to understand. Paul has been in congress for a few decades and hasn't accomplished much more than earmarking massive amounts of money to pet projects (but he votes against it after which makes it ok
)
He hasn't made the central banks unpopular, the growing populist movements and 99% er homos have pretty much made all banks seem like the bad guys. Paulbots are almost as delusional as Al Gore at this point. It was Ron Paul who really invented the Internet, right?
I can't wait until this election is over and I don't have to hear from the Internet cancer that is RP supporters anymore. Oh wait, I forgot, RP has a son and his nut barnacles will probably attach themselves to him. So for the next 30 years we will have to hear "Rand Paul 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, etc, etc." I can't wait.....
What is he supposed to? There are no other libertarians in congress.
The occupy wall street movement is generally silent on the issue of the Fed. Notice they camp out at Wall Street and not in front of the New York Fed. It is Austrian economics inspired libertarians (Ron Paul being one) who have labored for decades to expose the Fed.
Which is why he's doing the politically expedient thing by running on a GOP ticket.
Does it bother you that he is audacious enough to tread where only neocons dare? Would you have a problem with someone who agreed with you completely running as a democrat for purely tactical reasons?
1/8/2012 11:56:03 AM
Originally Posted By dan45678:
I really don't know too many conservatives who advocate getting rid of social security and medicare. Do you?
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
What?
Kinda early to be drinking on a sunday morning isn't it.
Originally Posted By dan45678:
All of those "real" conservatives support the new deal. Most of them support the great society. Wow, I'm so impressed by their limited government credentials.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
Originally Posted By acogmike:
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Originally Posted By munkalido:
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
All of those "real" conservatives support the new deal. Most of them support the great society. Wow, I'm so impressed by their limited government credentials.
What?
Kinda early to be drinking on a sunday morning isn't it.
I really don't know too many conservatives who advocate getting rid of social security and medicare. Do you?
Yes, aren't they great models of fiscal responsibility.
My annual social insecurity letter says they'll be broke in less than 20 years.
Got any other great gov't programs that work so well?
1/8/2012 11:57:31 AM
Rand Paul has publicly stated that his father SHOULD NOT run as an independent. He seems to be a party guy.
1/8/2012 12:01:17 PM
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
I'm not going to hold your hand on this one and walk you through this one. Educate yourself on what earmarks actually are. I know the idiot you chose to nominate last round blabbered on and on about earmarks, but they aren't the issue. The spending is. Earmarks don't add spending. They keep the power for spending money in the congress and not the executive branch. To attack Ron Paul on this issue is to take the position that you want Obama to be more powerful and get to choose how to spend the money on something like a BS "clean energy bill" that Ron Paul voted against.
You hate to give him in credit, but he has been a very large reason for the public opinion of the federal reserve and the ability of the government to steal from people by printing money and borrowing money. If you want to end big government, the FED is largely the body that finances it all.
I'm sorry he didn't run around and introduce legislation that was politically correct in order to get votes and support. He wants actual change. He doesn't want to tinker with the system a little bit and expect it to change the course of the country. The changes required are massive.
And hell yes, Rand Paul 20_ _.
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
Anyone in congress can "introduce" legislation. But most legislation doesn't go anywhere unless it has support. Something that Paulbots don't seem to understand. Paul has been in congress for a few decades and hasn't accomplished much more than earmarking massive amounts of money to pet projects (but he votes against it after which makes it ok)
He hasn't made the central banks unpopular, the growing populist movements and 99% er homos have pretty much made all banks seem like the bad guys. Paulbots are almost as delusional as Al Gore at this point. It was Ron Paul who really invented the Internet, right?
I can't wait until this election is over and I don't have to hear from the Internet cancer that is RP supporters anymore. Oh wait, I forgot, RP has a son and his nut barnacles will probably attach themselves to him. So for the next 30 years we will have to hear "Rand Paul 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, etc, etc." I can't wait.....
Originally Posted By dan45678:
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
Ron Paul has introduced legislation to end the fed, repeal the NFA, et cetera for decades. How is that doing nothing?
He has succeeded in making the central bank of the United States politically unpopular. No one has achieved anything like that since Andrew Jackson. It is an amazing accomplishment.
Anyone in congress can "introduce" legislation. But most legislation doesn't go anywhere unless it has support. Something that Paulbots don't seem to understand. Paul has been in congress for a few decades and hasn't accomplished much more than earmarking massive amounts of money to pet projects (but he votes against it after which makes it ok
)
He hasn't made the central banks unpopular, the growing populist movements and 99% er homos have pretty much made all banks seem like the bad guys. Paulbots are almost as delusional as Al Gore at this point. It was Ron Paul who really invented the Internet, right?
I can't wait until this election is over and I don't have to hear from the Internet cancer that is RP supporters anymore. Oh wait, I forgot, RP has a son and his nut barnacles will probably attach themselves to him. So for the next 30 years we will have to hear "Rand Paul 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, etc, etc." I can't wait.....
I'm not going to hold your hand on this one and walk you through this one. Educate yourself on what earmarks actually are. I know the idiot you chose to nominate last round blabbered on and on about earmarks, but they aren't the issue. The spending is. Earmarks don't add spending. They keep the power for spending money in the congress and not the executive branch. To attack Ron Paul on this issue is to take the position that you want Obama to be more powerful and get to choose how to spend the money on something like a BS "clean energy bill" that Ron Paul voted against.
You hate to give him in credit, but he has been a very large reason for the public opinion of the federal reserve and the ability of the government to steal from people by printing money and borrowing money. If you want to end big government, the FED is largely the body that finances it all.
I'm sorry he didn't run around and introduce legislation that was politically correct in order to get votes and support. He wants actual change. He doesn't want to tinker with the system a little bit and expect it to change the course of the country. The changes required are massive.
And hell yes, Rand Paul 20_ _.
If you think you can hold my hand and walk me through anything you are sadly mistaken. The money is there. He directs it to his pet projects and then votes against it so he dupe his supporters into thinking he is something more than he actually is. You guys go for it hook, line and sinker. He knows it will pass without his vote, That is called having your cake and eating it too.
You can't change shit if a) your legislation can't be passed and b) you can't get elected. I would offer to walk you through this one but first you need to come back to the place I live in - the real world.
1/8/2012 12:09:54 PM
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
Yes, aren't they great models of fiscal responsibility.
My annual social insecurity letter says they'll be broke in less than 20 years.
Got any other great gov't programs that work so well?
Originally Posted By dan45678:
I really don't know too many conservatives who advocate getting rid of social security and medicare. Do you?
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
What?
Kinda early to be drinking on a sunday morning isn't it.
Originally Posted By dan45678:
All of those "real" conservatives support the new deal. Most of them support the great society. Wow, I'm so impressed by their limited government credentials.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
Originally Posted By acogmike:
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
Originally Posted By ProCCW:
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Originally Posted By munkalido:
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
maybe the soldier was doing something not right within the .mil rules, wearing that uniform while stumping for political candidate and CNN pulled the plug when they realized it??
That, and America is responsible for 9/11/01
Do you really think that middle eastern radicals hate America because we are a "free" people?, or because we occupy their land?
I would have to go with the latter. I can tell you right now that if there were foreign troops occupying American soil, there would be a shitstorm from our citizens and I wouldn't blame them one bit.
To say that we were attacked on 9-11 because we are "free and independent people" is absolute horseshit! The CIA even testified to our occupation of their holy land as a cause for the attack.
As for the Iran thing. Please, Isreal is fully capable of defending themselves. We don't need to contribute an ounce of American blood to that cause. But god for bid, Israel suffers any tragedy at the hands of any Iranian conflict. Ron Paul would indeed be the first to help out our allies.
And when I hear so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Levinne mocking Ron Paul and saying shit like "I would back any republican candidate except for Ron Paul" and Ron Paul is a loon, I wanna puke. Ron Paul defines conservatism and his economic policies might shake up alot of back room deals but i am far from giving a shit about any of that. I only care about leaving my kids and grandkids the same great country and opportunitys that i had growing up. And Mitt Romney and the rest of the washingtand insiders will prevent that from happening. and to follow the mainstream media and agree with these NEO hacks will only get you what you deserve in the long run. A police state and erosion of your liberties.
I suppose it's Dr. Paul that's suing the Obama administration over Govt healthcare, Illegal immigration, getting Sotomayor to remove herself from the supreme court healthcare decision, or could that be a "real" conservative like Mark Levin.
All of those "real" conservatives support the new deal. Most of them support the great society. Wow, I'm so impressed by their limited government credentials.
What?
Kinda early to be drinking on a sunday morning isn't it.
I really don't know too many conservatives who advocate getting rid of social security and medicare. Do you?
Yes, aren't they great models of fiscal responsibility.
My annual social insecurity letter says they'll be broke in less than 20 years.
Got any other great gov't programs that work so well?
No government program works well.
1/8/2012 12:48:47 PM
Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
If you think you can hold my hand and walk me through anything you are sadly mistaken. The money is there. He directs it to his pet projects and then votes against it so he dupe his supporters into thinking he is something more than he actually is. You guys go for it hook, line and sinker. He knows it will pass without his vote, That is called having your cake and eating it too.
You can't change shit if a) your legislation can't be passed and b) you can't get elected. I would offer to walk you through this one but first you need to come back to the place I live in - the real world.
If you think you can hold my hand and walk me through anything you are sadly mistaken. The money is there. He directs it to his pet projects and then votes against it so he dupe his supporters into thinking he is something more than he actually is. You guys go for it hook, line and sinker. He knows it will pass without his vote, That is called having your cake and eating it too.
You can't change shit if a) your legislation can't be passed and b) you can't get elected. I would offer to walk you through this one but first you need to come back to the place I live in - the real world.
So the executive branch should have the power to spend the money?
