CHU Armor?

Living in a single wet CHU w/ no sandbags anywhere. May be moving shortly. Should I armor the inside w/ sandbags, or cases of water bottles? If I get told to move, I don't want to have to muck several hundred pounds of sandbags outside.

Farmers Fight!

backbencher

Totally

And sleep in full kit.

Don't worry, you'll get used to the incoming after awhile. After a bit, we figured that if it was our time, so be it. Probably not a very healthy attitude, but it is what it is, or was in my case.

I'd imagine if you were living in CHUs there'd be t-walls around. From my experience, at that point sand bags probably won't help you because the damn thing would be falling through your roof.

Oh, I'm used to it - I've been here 9? months now. Just changed COBs. The closest T-wall is 3 CHUs down, so if it were to hit in our LSA, it would be inside the T-walls.

Farmers Fight!

backbencher

lol

I'd kill for a single wet CHU right now. I share a head with 40 other guys and every Thursday the septic tank backs up into it. Lovely trying to navigate puddles of shit to take a cold shower.

Fill water bottles up with sand.

ljh,

Suppose I'll get to enjoy that next year in Afghanistan. Bettendorf, good idea, but if I'm going to use sand, think I'll go find some pre-filled sandbags.

FF!

bb

If the threat is incoming mortars/rockets, sandbags won't help. Get a rabbit's foot or a rosary.

^This ^

WTF would you put sand bags on the INSIDE of your CHU and water bottles wont stop a .22 what makes you think they will stop a katyusha?

I am going to guess your place will be closing down shortly. I would just pray.

ETA: You are from TX so proabably with 1CD which means I have a pretty good idea of where you are and the incoming threat is not as great as what you probably think.

grunts theory states that: Wet CHUs are inversely proportional to your real threat level

IE if you have a wet CHU all to yourself you probably dont need to sand bag it.

Thanks to all who replied, have completed "bricking" the window w/ a fridge, & up to a depth of 8 bottles of water. I may be in a wet CHU, but some folks are trippled up, & they face the same IDF threat I do. Joe, it's a bit rude to go to my neighbors & ask to put sand bags on the inside of their CHU's. One water bottle won't stop a .22; I'm trying to stop or @ least slow down fragments, that have already penetrated a steel CHU, and hopefully were far enough away so that I'll survive the encounter should it occur. Besides, it's good PT. As far as the rest of your post, some of it is incorrect or I'm unable to comment.

Farmers Fight!

backbencher

I know a guy who built a damned bunker in his CHU, then covered up in a ballistic blanket every night. He was almost funny to watch during a rocket attack. I've never sen a guy so jittery before or since.

Just head down to the DRMO yard and you can get some armor plating. It's a bit heavy and will probably destroy the frame of the CHU, but you'll be safe.

Our CHUs had 10-12 foot concrete T-wall protection plus sandbags. One of our guys had a 107mm rocket detonate high on a T-wall and the frag tore him up on his entire left side while he was laying in his rack.

We had some other guys banged up when the shitter trailer had a mortar bomb go through the roof, exploding on the floor.

Water bottles and sandbags ain't going to cut it.

You are the one that said you are going to armor the inside.

At least you will get a nice shower if a rocket hits.

this sounds familier
i wondered who moved in after we moved out

it was more often than once a week though

Seen fragments from a 107mm rip through 4 conexs (side by side, so 8 "walls" total), plus the water, books, cardboard, and other HA stacked inside them... the CHU wall + sandbags and water bottles isn't going to do it IMO. If you are that worried, sleep in a bunker.

This is by far the best answer in this entire stupid fucking thread. I can't believe some people....

My suggestion would be to dig a foxhole underneath the CHU and live there. You can fill the CHU up w/ sand, rocks and waterbottles and call that overhead cover. Think of the hilarity when people come looking for you and they open a door to a wall of sand pouring on them!
Ha.
Ha.

The end result of the wall of water:





Fortunately it was never tested. Good PT though.

Gig 'em,

backbencher

Just think, if your CHU got hit, you could at least get a shower without walking to the LSS trailer. Your piss bottles exploding might have been pretty gross, however.

Your TL should smoke you

just enough water to wash the blood away after the indirect fire hits, all you need is the mop

Well, there is that...

WTF.....

What, you didn't armor your wet CHU with bottled water?

I'm still kinda in awe here, I thought it was dumb when he posted the thread and then he did it, I wish I had enough time on my hands to do that... I mean now I do, but I'm in Kuwait, not when I was up north.... seriously wtf?!?

What can I say? There's only so many times you can ride the bike around Adder's runway, and it doesn't take that long to hump 12 packs of water into the CHU. Before I built the wall, I double taped the window. @ least I wouldn't have been hit by glass. Would it protect me from a 107mm next door? Nope. From several CHU rows away? Maybe. On the right, it was 2 rows deep, so about 2 feet of water to slow down fragments. Not better than sandbags, but better than a solid glass window.

Gig 'em,

backbencher

This entire thread is retarded. Do you not have a bunker within a few feet of your CHU?

I'm waiting to see the safety message when some idiot is crushed from a heap of collapsing shit after they tried to armor their CHU.

You better be making the extended scale on your fucking PT test.

LOL, the 1st hit nearby is going to knock that shit off the wall on top of you.

I got used to rolling off my bed and hitting the floor, then making my way to the bunker.
Had 3 land in camp one night. One landed on a chu. Saw the aftermath of that.

When it's your time it's your time.

I agree with everyone - when it's your time all of the armor in the world isn't gonna help. Hell, if you happen to have gone into the bunker for a midnight piss and the round lands on the bunker, you're probably done anyway if the round was big enough. Just quit worrying about it and drive on.

Im still trying to figure out WTF is a wet CHU?

CHU with a shitter/shower inside.

Gotta agree with this. ^^^^^

I was on Adder awhile back and lost good Soldiers on the COB from indirect fire.

Your water bottle wall knocked across your CHU is gonna block your exit and you're gonna drown in the middle of the desert.

Thats badass, I want one.

You and me both, I would have to get medevaced out to see something that sweet. I guess I'll just give it time.

This

Wet CHUs are great - had one may last time 'round. I went up in Iraq from ground near/top of HMMWV, to tent to, to CHU to wet CHU. The layout has basically H-shaped, with the plumbing part in the cross section of the H, and the standard CHU on each side. So, 4 persons per toilet / shower.

Nothing, however, beats the shelter I lived in back in the '90s on Al Jabar in Kuwait. The AF had some nice shit. I had my own damned toilet and shower.

Yeah, I mean, it's not like the places with wet CHUs weren't often the price targets of the best trained rocket teams.

They were also covered in 10 foot tall Vermont barriers and heavily sandbagged, risk mitigation, what is it. Point is, he needs to accept the threat of death and bodily harm from IDF and move on, otherwise he's going to be a jittery fucked up dude who sucks at his job because he's too worried about putting water bottles in his CHU. IDF is something you cannot control bro, accept that it could get you, but most likely will not and drive the fuck on.

My wet CHU got a rocket back in 08. Sucked...broke the sewer pipe and filled my CHU with sewage after my wall locker had fallen over and dumped my clothes all over the floor.

Sandbags do work. We had a guy saved by a sandbag wall when a 107 hit directly on the sandbags and there was no penetration. He would have died flat out as he was asleep about 4 feet from the point of impact. The bags need to be about 3-4 feet thick and stacked tightly to above sleeping height. Remember, frag goes up and back towards the launch point.

Simply put, in terms of threat level, the place I was at when I lived in a dry CHU was orders of magnitude safe (seriously, the only artillery I heard for a year from there was outgoing), then when I lived in the IZ. We had CHUs getting ripped to shreds on a daily basis for a while. One got hit by a 240mm!

No, I never tried to armor mine, but I do know a guy who stacked sandbags around his bunk.

Most of the attacks were during daylight, so the trick was just to be a workaholic. The only people killed were in their CHUs when they should have been at work (all civilians, and all with the DoS - go figure. )

Here's what mine looked like on Liberty:





Shared it with my roomate and the guy across the way. He had more time on project and had his 1/2 of the Chu all to himself.

My CHU:


Right side of the room was all mine.


Bathroom was on the other side of that door:

Holy shit, 240mm? That's intense like camping, I had a 107 hit about 15 meters from me once and that sucked enough, I can't imagine something in the 240mm range... meh... bad ju ju

I saw a 240 hit in the Edgewood neighborhood of trailers at the old Embassy/Palace. They changed the name of the trailer park to deadwood. Devastation was the only way to describe it. It leveled several trailers and fragged a goo 20-30 more to the point that nobody would have survived. Bad stuff.

April-May 2008?

You lucky bastard. I think you're just bragging about "home" All I ever had was a tent. Nearest T walls? About 50 yards.

Who doesn't love a 36 man tent for a year. Me, that's who!

Hadn't seen this when I was lifting bottles, but interesting:

http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2005/07/mythbusters_bulletproof_water.html

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