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enoemosuoywonk  [Member]
5/20/2010 7:26:34 PM
guys who are in and guys who have come out, knowing what you know now would you do it again?


so I am thinking of enlisting, but am rather unsure due to the commitment and the risk of being shot at kinda sucks.


so im just looking for any tips and opinions of the military
im mostly looking at the marines, army and coast guard

thanks for your time and service
captain127  [Member]
5/20/2010 7:34:50 PM
I had a pretty rough tour in Iraq in 04-05 a relatively slacker tour in Afghanistan in 08. When all is said and done would I do it again? yes- though I masy have made diffent choices as far as mos and carrer path
enoemosuoywonk  [Member]
5/20/2010 7:57:33 PM
what was your mos if you dont mind
Mikhail_86  [Team Member]
5/20/2010 8:00:11 PM
<––- 0331 USMC 2006-present

Would do it again, only thing I would change was not listening to my stupid ass girlfriend I had back in 06 and I would have joined active duty.
ljh824  [Team Member]
5/20/2010 8:45:03 PM
16 years enlisted in the Marine Corps. Some good times (liberty in Europe and Japan), some bad times (wounded in Desert Storm). Would I do it again? In a heartbeat.
kudzu630  [Team Member]
5/20/2010 10:06:06 PM
Originally Posted By enoemosuoywonk:
guys who are in and guys who have come out, knowing what you know now would you do it again?


so I am thinking of enlisting, but am rather unsure due to the commitment and the risk of being shot at kinda sucks.


so im just looking for any tips and opinions of the military
im mostly looking at the marines, army and coast guard

thanks for your time and service


I've been in ten years and 2 days... I reenlisted about eight days ago. I've served in Korea, Iraq, and just recently Afghanistan... I reenlisted because for one i wasn't ready to see myself as a civilian, not so much becuase I was unsure of the future. It seemed I was rushing to an unknown... versus what I love doing. I enjoy and take pride in my chosen profession and realize that very few, even within the military do what I do (I am MI). With that in mind I see the men who chose to leave fields that were their home more or less for the early part of their Army careers... and they need mentorship just as much as the youngest private coming in off the street. Not tooting my horn but I realized that I have a decades worth of experience and want to pass it along, I want to serve. I am addicted to the job because it's freakin fun.

My experience is not everyone's and certainly not every NCO's. But its mine. So to answer your question? Yes.
Furious  [Team Member]
5/21/2010 10:00:36 PM


Not only would I do it again but I'm in the process of volunteering to go to A-stan. Just got back from Iraq and I have no regrets.




tc556guy  [Team Member]
5/22/2010 11:30:16 AM
Yes I would do it all again. The military exposes you to a wider range of personalities and situations than almost anywhere else in life.
ThatGuy91K  [Team Member]
5/22/2010 11:42:48 AM
Just realize this, the .mil is what you make of it. There is going to be some shitty stuff, but there are some days where it's the greatest job ever.

If I had it to do all over again, I would probably change some stuff, but I wouldn't hesitate to do it all again and would probably make a career of it.
skinnysarge79  [Team Member]
5/22/2010 11:50:00 AM
There will be insane amounts of suck and retardation. But in the end it all boils down to you and your attitude. Keep smiling. When it's obvious to the whole world that things are sucking, will you spend your time complaining about how bad it is, or will you crack a joke and help keep your teams spirits high.

Would I do it again? I'll have to wait until I stop to answer that question.
Mr_Happyface  [Member]
5/22/2010 11:52:18 AM


I'd be nothing if it wasn't for the Army.

It scares me to think how close I came to not getting in.



I'd do it again in a second - I'd make some different career choices along the way though.





lokt  [Team Member]
5/22/2010 12:47:59 PM
I would make the same decision to join the guard again. Although last year was fucking crazy, I would absolutely not trade those experiences for anything.

I've never met so many people in one organization that were motivated by something larger than themselves. The unit I went over with and even beyond that, the battalion and command in the state as a whole are a small community, which is mainly positive.

That said, sometimes trying to accomplish stuff in the civilian world requires jumping through piles of fucking hoops, and the interruptions are becoming a pain in the ass, post deployment.

Regardless, I'll second skinnySarge on the attitude thing: rampant suck only takes a few words and a mindset to make either 100x better or 100x worse. Attitude is key.
enoemosuoywonk  [Member]
5/22/2010 3:23:53 PM
thanks for all the replys guys it sounds like everyone agrees its worth it, for those of you that said you would change the path you took what was your mos and what did you dislike about it
WarLord31  [Team Member]
5/22/2010 3:33:04 PM
I would do it again. Now that doesn't mean its a cake walk of course. Lots of "Hurry Up and Wait". More FUBAR than you can cuss at. Dumbass things you never knew you'd be doing. And even more dumbass CO's you think didn't know their nose from their asshole. OK, that's the bad part. Still would do it all over again. There's NOTHING in the rest of this world that can compare to that experience. I guarantee you'll be better for it.
The-Bald-Monk  [Team Member]
5/22/2010 8:21:04 PM
Yes and matter of fact I did do it again.

I was an active duty Marine (0341) from 95 to 99 and did 2 deployments (Med Cruise and Okinawa)
In 07 joined the reserves (0471) and deployed to Iraq in 08 and currently in the middle of pre-deployment training for Afghanistan.
The reserves are a good fit for me and my family.

Monk
Hawkdriver  [Member]
5/22/2010 9:41:32 PM
If you can’t keep your wits and sense of humor while under some of the shittiest of conditions and circumstances, you need not apply…



There are things that I would have done differently, but I have no regrets about joining the military…

Whatever you end up doing with your life, make informed decisions...

garanditis  [Team Member]
5/23/2010 1:59:49 AM
Well, of the 22 years I spent in the Army, I have a lot of good memories, bad memories, and a few tragic ones. If I had it all to do over again (knowing what I know now), I would bail out after the first enlistment and go to college. The retirement isn't all that sexy anymore, and you put a lot of mileage on your body and mind. I wish I could take 19 years back.
YMMV
CAsoldier  [Member]
5/24/2010 3:47:28 AM
id do it again in a heartbeat

not to sound like a dick but if youre afraid of the commitment and you dont feel like theres something worth dying for. we dont want or need you. its not for everyone. lifes not about second chances, its about doing what you feel is right, right now.
Infantry26  [Team Member]
5/24/2010 8:22:29 PM
I wouldn't want to have to do those 4 years over again but I'm glad I did them!

I would go back to Afghanistan tomorrow but garrison is too much for me.
onetwobravo  [Member]
5/24/2010 8:58:09 PM
Originally Posted By Infantry26:
I wouldn't want to have to do those 4 years over again but I'm glad I did them!

I would go back to Afghanistan tomorrow but garrison is too much for me.




qft, after your first deployment (and the paycheck at the end of it) you will think garrison life blows.

im not sure if they still have the 15month enlistment option but if your unsure i would just do that, then ask for a unit thats gonna deploy soon. after that you can re-enlist if need be.
tyman  [Team Member]
5/26/2010 12:05:11 AM
Originally Posted By WarLord31:
I would do it again. Now that doesn't mean its a cake walk of course. Lots of "Hurry Up and Wait". More FUBAR than you can cuss at. Dumbass things you never knew you'd be doing. And even more dumbass CO's you think didn't know their nose from their asshole. OK, that's the bad part. Still would do it all over again. There's NOTHING in the rest of this world that can compare to that experience. I guarantee you'll be better for it.


This. There are things I would have done differently but I would go the same route as before.
RuinII  [Team Member]
5/26/2010 1:00:02 AM
I just got back from my first tour to Iraq in February. The only reason I'm not on a volunteer list to deploy again in the fall is because I've chosen to settle for a bit and get my degree and commission (currently enlisted). If I already had both, I'd be gone again soon. I plan on volunteering again as soon as I get both as well.

My tour was tough, boring, fun, miserable, enjoyable, and the most rewarding thing I've ever done (I'm a 19D - Cavalry Scout). I find myself at home and in the daily grind thinking of patrols, LPOPs, and the mundane stuff that, at the time, seemed so terrible but is now something I cherish.


In short, I would (and will) do it again.
lar1911  [Member]
5/30/2010 11:09:54 AM
Here is a different look. I went in later in life into the National Guard, then became full time later.
So i can compare it to the civilian world.

I worked as a Federal employee for couple years, I was a GS-12 making pretty good money. So if I was there now I would be making high 80's
Federal Pay scale

As nice as it sounds there are no guarantees you will get into the job, I was lucky, And I worked for a short trollish woman who was angry at life and hated everyone.
So when people say you are treated badly in the military, its everywhere. But in the Military there is a good chance one of you are moving in the next year.

So when you try to move to another job, you apply and it can take months to find another job, and you may not.

In the civilian world you can do everything right, go to college, work hard and still end up in a job that pays $12 an hour. Life isn't fair.

So I joined the National Guard at 27, Basic was fun, I dated women worse than them.

I finished a Masters degree and became an Officer. I am a Transportation Officer, I went to Iraq scheduling convoys. When I returned I ended up as a Project Manager.

I live in the DC area right now, I love what I do and it changes. Also, in the civilian world you can do everything right and not get rewarded for it. In the Military you can work hard on yourself and get promoted. I do realize you have unlimited money to make as a civilian, but are you the next Donald Trump?

There are tons of jobs, the Air force has a job running a Night Club (I am Army and dream about that) As you move up in rank you are put in charge of people, so your job responsibilities change with time (another plus over civilian life, you can have the same job in a company 10 years later) And 20 years later you have a retirement.

Here is a link to a pay calculator Pay Calculator

nf9648  [Team Member]
5/30/2010 2:47:19 PM
I got out at 10 years to try civy life, Its been about a year and a half now and Ive got the bug real bad to go back in 11 series and try for SF. Not to mention Ive already seen too many people middle aged who are prior service that have had heart attacks and other conditions after leaving the mil, scares the shit out of me.
21BoomCBTENGR  [Team Member]
5/30/2010 11:19:12 PM
Except for jumping off that fucking dumptruck, yep i'd do it all again, same MOS, the only MOS, the MOS where they only take you if they clang when you walk. THE COMBAT ENGINEERS!
pevrs114  [Team Member]
5/30/2010 11:31:34 PM
Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Except for jumping off that fucking dumptruck, yep i'd do it all again, same MOS, the only MOS, the MOS where they only take you if they clang when you walk. THE COMBAT ENGINEERS!


The only MOS where if you didn't have all 10 fingers when you started, you certainly won't have them all when you leave!



Yes, I'd do it again, but I would make some changes. I'm making the best of it, and came back in this year with a few of those changes made.
21BoomCBTENGR  [Team Member]
5/30/2010 11:33:48 PM
Originally Posted By pevrs114:
Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Except for jumping off that fucking dumptruck, yep i'd do it all again, same MOS, the only MOS, the MOS where they only take you if they clang when you walk. THE COMBAT ENGINEERS!


The only MOS where if you didn't have all 10 fingers when you started, you certainly won't have them all when you leave!



Yes, I'd do it again, but I would make some changes. I'm making the best of it, and came back in this year with a few of those changes made.


The MOS that requires you to wear a size 13 wide or larger boot!
dangerdan  [Team Member]
5/31/2010 2:31:33 PM
I'm 50/50. I learned alot of things in the grunts, done alot of stuff and saw alot of stuff. It was love/hate relationship and had fun at times. I was stationed in Hawaii, which was nice, but got old real quick.
But looking at it...I feel like I just got out of High School where I have to start over again. I could have a Bachelors Degree and a steady job by now.
Syroc  [Team Member]
6/8/2010 7:28:30 PM
Late to this thread. I got messed up by an IED last year. I will no longer be able to serve in the Infantry (which is the only job I ever wanted) and i'm on my way out of service. Knowing everything I know now, hell even if things were different and I would knowingly die in that blast, I would easily do it all over again. If it's something you want it's a calling and you don't need your reasons. I've met plenty of people who hate it and plenty more who loved it. I personally loved every moment.
Bonk2029  [Team Member]
6/9/2010 7:03:07 PM
I'd do the same basic path, up to about two years after I got out. I left in 2000, and came back three months ago...that's a 10 year and 28 day break in service for anyone who was counting.

If I had to do it again, I'd come back in around 2002 or so, like I had wanted to after 9/11. I left the first time for very good reasons and needed a break badly, but I wish I had come back in sooner.
aggiez28  [Team Member]
6/10/2010 4:27:55 PM
YES
325moutguru  [Team Member]
6/10/2010 4:29:32 PM
Originally Posted By enoemosuoywonk:
guys who are in and guys who have come out, knowing what you know now would you do it again?


so I am thinking of enlisting, but am rather unsure due to the commitment and the risk of being shot at kinda sucks.


so im just looking for any tips and opinions of the military
im mostly looking at the marines, army and coast guard

thanks for your time and service


In a heart beat!!!

Hell the more I see the shit going on inside our country the more I wish I was still in the desert.
nf9648  [Team Member]
6/10/2010 7:13:35 PM
Originally Posted By Bonk2029:
I'd do the same basic path, up to about two years after I got out. I left in 2000, and came back three months ago...that's a 10 year and 28 day break in service for anyone who was counting.

If I had to do it again, I'd come back in around 2002 or so, like I had wanted to after 9/11. I left the first time for very good reasons and needed a break badly, but I wish I had come back in sooner.


What job ya pick?
Double-E  [Member]
6/11/2010 5:13:09 PM
22 Years USCG, I'd do it all over again and I'd even start over right now if they'd let me stay for nearly two sets of thirty. If your even remotely thinking about being a Coastie your looking at a V-E-R-Y long wait.
K1rodeoboater  [Team Member]
6/12/2010 3:40:26 PM
Hmm...tough one. I've not deployed yet, and won't for a while now. That said I would have given some more serious thought to taking that West Point appointment I got while I was in OSUT. Only reason I didn't was because I already have undergrad degree and they don't offer a masters program there. I would have also had to have considered OCS a little more seriously before I enlisted.
wylie_coyote  [Team Member]
6/14/2010 11:37:16 AM
Its an experience man. you'll learn alot, and gain a whole new perspective on life. especially if you younger.

i joined active army in 2007, its something ill never regret. 2 deployments so far, and probably another. i dont plan on being a career guy, but i certainly plan on taking what i've learned in .mil and applying it to my life as a whole.


last but not least. Join. do it, you wont.
Bonk2029  [Team Member]
6/14/2010 2:12:42 PM
Originally Posted By nf9648:
Originally Posted By Bonk2029:
I'd do the same basic path, up to about two years after I got out. I left in 2000, and came back three months ago...that's a 10 year and 28 day break in service for anyone who was counting.

If I had to do it again, I'd come back in around 2002 or so, like I had wanted to after 9/11. I left the first time for very good reasons and needed a break badly, but I wish I had come back in sooner.


What job ya pick?


Went motor transport this time, after being a grunt and combat engineer my first trips. Something about being a little older, a little ricketier, and a slightly bigger wuss about spending nights in the mud....
mkgunz  [Team Member]
6/14/2010 2:22:37 PM
yes except I would have joined the Army when I was 17 and not the Navy. I'm in the Army now and regret not doing all this shit when I was younger.
ATACORION  [Member]
6/14/2010 6:39:47 PM
8 years active duty in the Navy and almost 1 year in the Navy Reserves. I took advantage of it and got alot of stuff. I was/ still am Navy Aircrew, a great job if you like to make money and travel. Been to about 30 different countries including combat deployments in Iraq, the philipiines and some other places. I did alot of partying in Thailand and Japan and traveled all over Europe. Got a TS SCI clearence out of it which helped me get my current job flying UAV's as a contractor making great money.
I got my Helicopter pilots lic. my FCC GROL lic. and quite a bit of college credits under my belt, in fact only 1 class away from my associates. Became a Fleet level instuctor at the training squadron which is a pretty big deal, and was up for E-6 when I went off of Active duty in 09, and still up for it in the reserves, but due to a NEC (job) change I probably wont make it anytime soon. But E-5 is by far the best rank in the military overall.
Navy has been very good to me......its not as "combat oriented" as say the Army or the Marine Corps but it is exciting and it allowed me to grow up alot.

I have found if you want to do a cool job, say freefalling out of Airplanes or kicking doors in, scuba diving, your quality of life pretty much sucks, just something to keep in mind.
MisterPX  [Team Member]
6/14/2010 7:30:02 PM
I volunteered for my first two deployments; first one was a good time, second one, not so much. However, I'll still probably volunteer for the next one too.
S13gmund  [Team Member]
6/15/2010 1:00:22 AM
I'd do it again in a heartbeat. For all the sacrifice and shit, at the end of the day, I know that I'm doing the right thing.
GulDuCal  [Team Member]
7/1/2010 9:13:51 AM

Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By pevrs114:
Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Except for jumping off that fucking dumptruck, yep i'd do it all again, same MOS, the only MOS, the MOS where they only take you if they clang when you walk. THE COMBAT ENGINEERS!


The only MOS where if you didn't have all 10 fingers when you started, you certainly won't have them all when you leave!



Yes, I'd do it again, but I would make some changes. I'm making the best of it, and came back in this year with a few of those changes made.


The MOS that requires you to wear a size 13 wide or larger boot!

lol.

and to the OP question... In a heartbeat!


Essayons!

zackjsimpson  [Team Member]
7/8/2010 9:30:33 AM
As much as this deployment has its shitty times, I would start it over again in a heartbeat given the option. 21B doing route clearance in A-stan. Army in garrison is way too easy too.
USMC6337  [Team Member]
7/8/2010 7:03:09 PM
Every time I hear a C-model F/A-18 fly over, I get chills and really wish I had stayed in. There's a lot that I miss about the Marines - mainly the small unit leadership and professionalism compared to my quasi-civilian job (LEO). Then I think of all the bullshit that goes with being in the military, and remember why I got out. But I would not be where I am now if it had not have been for the lessons that the Marine Corps taught me. I proudly served and remain proud of every Marine out there keeping our country safe.
zackjsimpson  [Team Member]
7/10/2010 1:39:37 PM
Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By pevrs114:
Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Except for jumping off that fucking dumptruck, yep i'd do it all again, same MOS, the only MOS, the MOS where they only take you if they clang when you walk. THE COMBAT ENGINEERS!


The only MOS where if you didn't have all 10 fingers when you started, you certainly won't have them all when you leave!



Yes, I'd do it again, but I would make some changes. I'm making the best of it, and came back in this year with a few of those changes made.


The MOS that requires you to wear a size 13 wide or larger boot!


I couldn't agree with you enough on that one. In today's army, there are 2 MOS's, the engineers, and those that support the engineers. nuf' said.

Speedgun  [Team Member]
7/12/2010 5:05:51 AM
Originally Posted By Bonk2029:
I'd do the same basic path, up to about two years after I got out. I left in 2000, and came back three months ago...that's a 10 year and 28 day break in service for anyone who was counting.

If I had to do it again, I'd come back in around 2002 or so, like I had wanted to after 9/11. I left the first time for very good reasons and needed a break badly, but I wish I had come back in sooner.


Same here. I left in 1992 and went on the same civilian career path. It's been a wild ride and I am now approaching retirement. Just turned 40 also, but I still remember the good times and would go back in if I could. I often have been thinking about that lately too. ANG would prob be the way I would go. Anyone want an ex AF Security Police guy and 18 year LEO???? Thought not.

Mr-L  [Team Member]
7/12/2010 6:21:09 AM
Originally Posted By enoemosuoywonk:
would you do it again?


Yes

L
rooster4bravo  [Team Member]
7/12/2010 6:34:19 AM
I'm out now, and I'm still reaping the rewards of my service.

Every aspect of my life has been positively impacted in some way by serving.
brasscrossedrifles  [Team Member]
7/13/2010 5:41:00 PM
I'm RE-enlisting in March as soon as I'm eligible and would do it even if I werent getting a bonus, my unit is supposed to MOB for afghanistan sometime in the nine months after I would be getting out if I didn't re-enlist. I'm in the Infantry and I love my job.

It's not for everyone. If you are worried about combat don't be a truck driver, an MP, or any MOS in the 11, 13, 18, 19 or 21 series.
Bonk2029  [Team Member]
7/14/2010 5:51:24 PM
Originally Posted By Speedgun:
Originally Posted By Bonk2029:
I'd do the same basic path, up to about two years after I got out. I left in 2000, and came back three months ago...that's a 10 year and 28 day break in service for anyone who was counting.

If I had to do it again, I'd come back in around 2002 or so, like I had wanted to after 9/11. I left the first time for very good reasons and needed a break badly, but I wish I had come back in sooner.


Same here. I left in 1992 and went on the same civilian career path. It's been a wild ride and I am now approaching retirement. Just turned 40 also, but I still remember the good times and would go back in if I could. I often have been thinking about that lately too. ANG would prob be the way I would go. Anyone want an ex AF Security Police guy and 18 year LEO???? Thought not.



Find a USAFR or Air Guard unit and do it. I did a little research, settled on the Guard, took about my 4th or 5th choice of MOS since nothing else acceptable was within my desired driving radius, and did it. This time, I am doing it strictly for the intangibles, because (I think) my country needs me. The tangibles are out the window - I already used my GI Bill, and I am much less rank-ambitious.
Edvvard  [Member]
7/14/2010 6:17:17 PM
I'll say one thing, i'm not in the military, yet at least...

but I regret not joining right out of high school. I'm 2 years into a degree as of now, and I'm going to finish it since i'm this far..