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TerribleTom  [Team Member]
6/17/2011 4:42:40 PM
ARFcom Fantasy Football 2011 - CLASSIC LEAGUE

League is up and can be accessed here:
http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/league/notagainlarnmaster

UPDATE: All 12 GMs from 2010 are returning for the 2011 season.

There is also a second league starting up this season that will be a keeper league. Keeper leagues typically require a multi-year commitment, and a lot of the GMs from this league are going to be in the new league too. The discussion about forming that league is here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=125&t=1132936 (league is full)

Important Dates (clear your calendars):
$50 3-round Auction
Sunday, August 21, 8PM Eastern/5PM Pacific
AR15.COM Sports Talk Forum

Live Draft
Monday, August 22, 8:30PM Easter/5:50PM Pacific
Yahoo! League Page


2010 final standings and draft order for 2010:
1. LarnMaster (Larnmaster) - joined Yahoo! league - $ paid
2. Sandman's Cows (Sandman67) - joined Yahoo! league - $ paid
3. Nobamas (civprod) - joined Yahoo! league - $ paid
4. INFAMOUS (Bryan_Aim) - joined Yahoo! league - $ paid
5. Flash Mob Squad (formerly Tier 1 Slut Hunter) (showmeballer) - joined Yahoo! league - $ paid
6. Chain Gang (eracer) - joined Yahoo! league - $ paid
7. The Mighty Goblins) (Wobblin-Goblin) - joined Yahoo! league - $ paid
8. heineken_NoBaDjUjU (Heineken) - joined Yahoo! league - $ paid
9. Maverick's Top Guns (Maverick91) - joined Yahoo! league - $ paid
10. Homicidal Maniacs (Terrible Tom) - joined Yahoo! league - $ paid
11. Lonestar Gunners (ar15bubba) - joined Yahoo! league - $ paid
12. Berserkers (tctlrld) - joined Yahoo! league - $ paid


REMEMBER that the 12 spot is the most favorable spot for our draft - the higher your number, the better your pick.

Entry Fee = $50. Treasurer Sandman67. IM for PayPal/postal address. For PayPal, send $51.81 (that's $50 after the 3.5% PayPal fee).

Prizes: $50 to 3rd Place, $100 to 2nd Place and the remainder (after any MO fees, etc) to the league winner.

League settings can be viewed at the league page (see link above).

Roster:
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, WR/RB, K, D/ST, BN x6 (15 player roster)
Draft:
$50 auction for rounds 1-3, "regular" snake draft for following rounds. We will use the Yahoo! default draft rankings for the auction.

Auction procedure:
We'll use the Yahoo! default draft ranking as the auction order. Bidding is open, but you can only buy three players. The Commissioner will maintain a spreadsheet while the auction is going to make sure that nobody bids more than they can pay. Max bid will be $48 (leaving $2 for two $1 bids at the end of the auction). I still have the spreadsheet from last season if you want it.

The Commissioner will start a thread here in Sports Talk for the top ranked player and the bidding will commence. After three minutes or so, The Commissioner post "Going Once", wait 30 seconds or so, "Going Twice", wait, "Gone". If a bid comes in before "Gone" it will go back to "Going Once". When that auction ends, we'll start the bidding on the next player. When all 12 GMs have filled three roster spots, the auction will end.

Plan on the whole process taking several hours.

After the auction:
You WILL go to your Yahoo! team page and edit your pre-draft rankings so that the three players you won in the auction are your top three. This way, if you are late for or miss the live draft your team will still get the three players you bought in the auction. Do not screw this up.

Rules
changes from 2010:
D/ST return yardage scoring increased from 1 point per 50 yards to 1 point per 25 yards.

Trade protest time reduced from 2 days to 1 day.



This contest is in no way sanctioned or otherwise supported by AR15.com, and all participants take part at their own risk.


ETA: SEASON FINAL RESULTS:
1. Homicidal Maniacs (Terrible Tom)
2. Maverick's Top Guns (Maverick91)
3. Berserkers (tctlrld)
4. Lonestar Gunners (ar15bubba)
5. LarnMaster (Larnmaster)
6. Sandman's Cows (Sandman67)
7. heineken_NoBaDjUjU (Heineken)
8. The Mighty Goblins) (Wobblin-Goblin)
9. Chain Gang (eracer)
10. INFAMOUS (Bryan_Aim)
11. Flash Mob Squad (showmeballer)
12. Nobamas (civprod)

Thanks for another great season, everyone.
showmeballer  [Team Member]
7/14/2011 7:55:40 PM
I'm Flash Mob Squad
Maverick91  [Member]
7/15/2011 10:04:55 AM
^gay...

Where's Wobby?
TerribleTom  [Team Member]
7/15/2011 3:04:07 PM

Originally Posted By showmeballer:
I'm Flash Mob Squad

Sorry, wrong Doug.

Thanks for the clarification.

OP updated.

Regarding the lockout: I'm more confident every day that the season will be played in full. The Rams & Bears are slated to start training camp on 7/22 (next Friday) and it's looking like a deal will be in place by then.
Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/18/2011 9:57:32 AM
Originally Posted By TerribleTom:

Originally Posted By showmeballer:
I'm Flash Mob Squad

Sorry, wrong Doug.

Thanks for the clarification.

OP updated.

Regarding the lockout: I'm more confident every day that the season will be played in full. The Rams & Bears are slated to start training camp on 7/22 (next Friday) and it's looking like a deal will be in place by then.



Agreed Tom. Looks like we are good to go.


I would assume all owners from last year are returning? I can speak for myself, Maverick and LarnMaster as we are all in.





Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/21/2011 8:21:54 AM
Thomas,

Probably should start working on some dates for the auction and draft....?
TerribleTom  [Team Member]
7/21/2011 7:14:59 PM

Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Thomas,

Probably should start working on some dates for the auction and draft....?

The first game is on Thursday, 9/8. I don't want to cut it too close, just in case our draft somehow gets screwed up and we need to re-draft.

How about Sunday, August 21 for the auction and Sunday, August 28 for the live draft?

I'm going to update the OP with those tentative dates. 8PM Eastern/5PM Pacific has worked in the past, so I'll stick with that.

If anyone has any major scheduling conflict or anything, these dates and/or times can be changed.

ETA - Sunday 8/28 is not available. Saturday, 8/27, 8:30PM is it!
Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/22/2011 4:19:48 PM
Originally Posted By TerribleTom:

Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Thomas,

Probably should start working on some dates for the auction and draft....?

The first game is on Thursday, 9/8. I don't want to cut it too close, just in case our draft somehow gets screwed up and we need to re-draft.

How about Sunday, August 21 for the auction and Sunday, August 28 for the live draft?

I'm going to update the OP with those tentative dates. 8PM Eastern/5PM Pacific has worked in the past, so I'll stick with that.

If anyone has any major scheduling conflict or anything, these dates and/or times can be changed.

ETA - Sunday 8/28 is not available. Saturday, 8/27, 8:30PM is it!


Sounds good -I'll pencil it in.

Bryan_Aim  [Industry Partner]
7/22/2011 4:20:59 PM
what, lets draft!
Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/22/2011 4:21:17 PM
I've been the treasurer since we started this league and there has never been an issue with the money. Unless someone has any objections I'll volunteer to do it again this year.
TerribleTom  [Team Member]
7/22/2011 4:32:10 PM
Houston we have a problem.

The draft times on the Yahoo! site are Pacific Time. 8:30PM PDT is 11:30PM EST.

I guess they limit the number of simultaneous drafts to keep their server performance up.

We are going to have to do something and the time slots are very limited.

Here are our options:

1. VERY late night draft for you east coast guys.
2. Weeknight draft
3. Offline draft (maybe a thread here? maybe a different website? ideas?)
4. Labor Day weekend draft (not a good answer IMO)

What do you think?

ETA - Sandy as Treasurer works for me.
Bryan_Aim  [Industry Partner]
7/22/2011 4:35:55 PM
Sandy Vagina is a great treasurer
Bryan_Aim  [Industry Partner]
7/22/2011 4:36:18 PM
Originally Posted By TerribleTom:
Houston we have a problem.

The draft times on the Yahoo! site are Pacific Time. 8:30PM PDT is 11:30PM EST.

I guess they limit the number of simultaneous drafts to keep their server performance up.

We are going to have to do something and the time slots are very limited.

Here are our options:

1. VERY late night draft for you east coast guys.
2. Weeknight draft
3. Offline draft (maybe a thread here? maybe a different website? ideas?)
4. Labor Day weekend draft (not a good answer IMO)

What do you think?

ETA - Sandy as Treasurer works for me.


weeknight is good with me
Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/22/2011 7:40:01 PM
Weeknight is fine for me or since it is a Saturday, the 11:30 is doable as well.
TerribleTom  [Team Member]
7/23/2011 12:36:52 PM
I checked again this morning - draft slots are disappearing like eclairs at Rosy O'Donnell's house.

I signed us up for Monday, August 22 at 5:30PM PDT (8:30PM EST).

That is the night after the auction.

I have updated the OP.

I think we need a deadline for payment that's at least a week before the auction. Sandman67 is the treasurer, if you don't have his mailing or PayPal address from last year, contact him via IM.
Wobblin-Goblin  [Team Member]
7/23/2011 1:17:09 PM
I'm in.

Sandy will get my money soon.

I also want to know when the "All the fixin's" league is going to get set up, too.
Heineken  [Team Member]
7/23/2011 2:35:49 PM
You know I'm in bitches!!!!

you can expect: bad spelling, saltyness, questionable drafting skillz

haha...cant believe its football time already...im still recovering from the Steelers Superbowl loss.

Ill get payment to sandy asap

what do i need to add to the 50 for paypal 3.5 percent?
Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/23/2011 2:45:32 PM
Originally Posted By Heineken:
You know I'm in bitches!!!!

you can expect: bad spelling, saltyness, questionable drafting skillz

haha...cant believe its football time already...im still recovering from the Steelers Superbowl loss.

Ill get payment to sandy asap

what do i need to add to the 50 for paypal 3.5 percent?



Normally 3.5% but you can 10 for the spelling errors I will have to sift through.

My money is on Heiny to win it this year.
TerribleTom  [Team Member]
7/23/2011 4:14:22 PM
We now have verbal commitments or better from 11 of 12 returning GMs.

ar15bubba was logged in this AM before I sent out the league-wide IM. I suspect he'll be along shortly...

This will be my 4th season in this league, and the first in which all 12 GMs returned (assuming that ar15bubba joins).
Heineken  [Team Member]
7/23/2011 4:15:15 PM
Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Originally Posted By Heineken:
You know I'm in bitches!!!!

you can expect: bad spelling, saltyness, questionable drafting skillz

haha...cant believe its football time already...im still recovering from the Steelers Superbowl loss.

Ill get payment to sandy asap

what do i need to add to the 50 for paypal 3.5 percent?



Normally 3.5% but you can 10 for the spelling errors I will have to sift through.

My money is on Heiny to win it this year.


only by dumb luck would that happen...im getting married in october, and i got a big promotion at work, so i have not kept up on the NFL at all! and now im on cable so i dont even have the nfl network anymore.

ya ya ya... excuses excuses, i know
Heineken  [Team Member]
7/23/2011 4:16:17 PM
Originally Posted By TerribleTom:
We now have verbal commitments or better from 11 of 12 returning GMs.

ar15bubba was logged in this AM before I sent out the league-wide IM. I suspect he'll be along shortly...

This will be my 4th season in this league, and the first in which all 12 GMs returned (assuming that ar15bubba joins).


i think this is my 4th as well, but it might be 3, cant remember that far back
TerribleTom  [Team Member]
7/23/2011 4:17:01 PM

Originally Posted By Heineken:
You know I'm in bitches!!!!

you can expect: bad spelling, saltyness, questionable drafting skillz

haha...cant believe its football time already...im still recovering from the Steelers Superbowl loss.

Ill get payment to sandy asap

what do i need to add to the 50 for paypal 3.5 percent?

$51.81 - 3.5% = $50.

Be sure to put "machine gun parts" in the comment line.
TerribleTom  [Team Member]
7/23/2011 4:17:43 PM

Originally Posted By Heineken:
Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Originally Posted By Heineken:
You know I'm in bitches!!!!

you can expect: bad spelling, saltyness, questionable drafting skillz

haha...cant believe its football time already...im still recovering from the Steelers Superbowl loss.

Ill get payment to sandy asap

what do i need to add to the 50 for paypal 3.5 percent?



Normally 3.5% but you can 10 for the spelling errors I will have to sift through.

My money is on Heiny to win it this year.


only by dumb luck would that happen...im getting married in october, and i got a big promotion at work, so i have not kept up on the NFL at all! and now im on cable so i dont even have the nfl network anymore.

ya ya ya... excuses excuses, i know

That lack of NFL Network is certain fantasy doom.


Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/23/2011 5:53:52 PM
Originally Posted By Heineken:
Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Originally Posted By Heineken:
You know I'm in bitches!!!!

you can expect: bad spelling, saltyness, questionable drafting skillz

haha...cant believe its football time already...im still recovering from the Steelers Superbowl loss.

Ill get payment to sandy asap

what do i need to add to the 50 for paypal 3.5 percent?



Normally 3.5% but you can 10 for the spelling errors I will have to sift through.

My money is on Heiny to win it this year.


only by dumb luck would that happen...im getting married in october, and i got a big promotion at work, so i have not kept up on the NFL at all! and now im on cable so i dont even have the nfl network anymore.

ya ya ya... excuses excuses, i know


Congrats on the marriage and the job promo


Heineken  [Team Member]
7/25/2011 3:28:36 PM
Funds sent to sandy :)

cool on PP you can just put 50 and click to pay the fee...no math involved :)
Bryan_Aim  [Industry Partner]
7/25/2011 3:39:43 PM
send me your paypal
Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/26/2011 7:48:15 AM
Originally Posted By Heineken:
Funds sent to sandy :)

cool on PP you can just put 50 and click to pay the fee...no math involved :)


Are you the guy with the comrade ruskie name?
Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/26/2011 7:55:13 AM
These are the guys I have not heard from in regards to joining the Keeper league. I am only posting this here so in case they check in they can grab a spot before the weekend deadline. Maverick has sent them IM's

Chain gang /eraser
Heineken
Lonestar/ar15bubba
Berserkers/tctlrld
TerribleTom  [Team Member]
7/26/2011 12:57:32 PM
ar15bubba has not replied to my IM and has not posted in this thread. I will send him one more IM but we may need to find a replacement GM.
ar15bubba  [Team Member]
7/26/2011 2:30:21 PM
Sorry Guys! Yes I want in again this season.
Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/26/2011 2:54:07 PM
Originally Posted By ar15bubba:
Sorry Guys! Yes I want in again this season.


Welcome back

How about the keeper league? You in or out?
Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/26/2011 2:55:18 PM
Heineken -are you going to join the keeper league? yea or nay?
TerribleTom  [Team Member]
7/27/2011 1:36:49 PM
This next week or so of free agency is going to be insane.

Hasselbeck to the Titans? McNabb to the Vikings? It looks like Denver is ready to go all in on Tebow, and Orton will end up either in Arizona or Miami. Now I see rumors about DeAngelo Williams going to the Giants.

Brace yourself!

ETA - my how things change - now Williams has re-signed with the Panthers. Crazy.
ar15bubba  [Team Member]
7/27/2011 5:23:37 PM
Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Originally Posted By ar15bubba:
Sorry Guys! Yes I want in again this season.


Welcome back

How about the keeper league? You in or out?


No, I only want in the classic league.
Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/27/2011 7:44:00 PM
Yea I thought for sure DW was gone. Out of everything that transpired today that was the unexpected for me.

McNaab to the Vikes. That could work very well for them if he can stay healthy.
Heineken  [Team Member]
7/28/2011 1:17:13 PM
Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Heineken -are you going to join the keeper league? yea or nay?


i responded to the IM with a "no thx" as instructed
Heineken  [Team Member]
7/28/2011 1:19:29 PM
Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Originally Posted By Heineken:
Funds sent to sandy :)

cool on PP you can just put 50 and click to pay the fee...no math involved :)


Are you the guy with the comrade ruskie name?


hahahahahaha...ur a dick!

Its Ukrainian, but I guess when my dads side came over back in the day is was ALL Russia :)

And it should not be as complicated but whatever asshat at Ellis Island did the paperwork screwed up the spelling
Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/28/2011 2:32:15 PM
Originally Posted By Heineken:
Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Originally Posted By Heineken:
Funds sent to sandy :)

cool on PP you can just put 50 and click to pay the fee...no math involved :)


Are you the guy with the comrade ruskie name?


hahahahahaha...ur a dick!

Its Ukrainian, but I guess when my dads side came over back in the day is was ALL Russia :)

And it should not be as complicated but whatever asshat at Ellis Island did the paperwork screwed up the spelling



Well payment received comrade
Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/28/2011 2:34:42 PM
So far I have received Paypal payments from :

BryanAim
Heiny
Sandman
Wobblin-Goblin  [Team Member]
7/28/2011 2:43:24 PM
Originally Posted By Sandman67:
So far I have received Paypal payments from :

BryanAim
Heiny
Sandman

You sent a PayPal payment to yourself?

What an idiot.

Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/28/2011 2:44:43 PM
Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Originally Posted By Sandman67:
So far I have received Paypal payments from :

BryanAim
Heiny
Sandman

You sent a PayPal payment to yourself?

What an idiot.



Hey I was keeping it on the up and up. What the hell did you expect me to do?
ar15bubba  [Team Member]
7/29/2011 5:15:27 PM
I should be paid up and joined now...
Sandman67  [Team Member]
7/29/2011 7:20:10 PM
Originally Posted By ar15bubba:
I should be paid up and joined now...


You are

So far I have received Paypal payments from :

BryanAim
Heiny
Sandman
AR15Bubba
JThompson  [Team Member]
8/1/2011 10:09:24 AM
Is this league filled up?
Sandman67  [Team Member]
8/1/2011 1:08:11 PM
Originally Posted By JThompson:
Is this league filled up?


Yes. This is the classic league. We have another league forming if you are interested. It will be a keeper league with a full auction draft. Most of the old time owners from this league are in it (at least 8) and we are looking to fill 2 more spots to reach 12 GM's.

Interested?
Sandman67  [Team Member]
8/3/2011 3:00:30 PM
Tom,

You can mark Heiny as paid in the first post. I received his paypal last week. It is noted in one of these posts. Thanks!

I suspect I will get Maverick and Larnmaster next week. You and Doug this week. That leaves just a few unpaid for this league....
TerribleTom  [Team Member]
8/3/2011 3:22:40 PM

Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Tom,

You can mark Heiny as paid in the first post. I received his paypal last week. It is noted in one of these posts. Thanks!

I suspect I will get Maverick and Larnmaster next week. You and Doug this week. That leaves just a few unpaid for this league....

I marked him paid a while ago when I saw the post acknowledging his payment. Did you even look at the OP?

Heine is marked as paid but he has not yet joined the Yahoo! league.
Sandman67  [Team Member]
8/3/2011 3:50:32 PM
Originally Posted By TerribleTom:

Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Tom,

You can mark Heiny as paid in the first post. I received his paypal last week. It is noted in one of these posts. Thanks!

I suspect I will get Maverick and Larnmaster next week. You and Doug this week. That leaves just a few unpaid for this league....

I marked him paid a while ago when I saw the post acknowledging his payment. Did you even look at the OP?

Heine is marked as paid but he has not yet joined the Yahoo! league.




Yes I did, that is why I mentioned it. When I saw him in red and not blue I thought it had to do with the payment. Didn't realize it was the league thing. Sorry.

Why the hostility?

TerribleTom  [Team Member]
8/3/2011 4:03:55 PM

Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Originally Posted By TerribleTom:
Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Tom,

You can mark Heiny as paid in the first post. I received his paypal last week. It is noted in one of these posts. Thanks!

I suspect I will get Maverick and Larnmaster next week. You and Doug this week. That leaves just a few unpaid for this league....

I marked him paid a while ago when I saw the post acknowledging his payment. Did you even look at the OP?

Heine is marked as paid but he has not yet joined the Yahoo! league.

Yes I did, that is why I mentioned it. When I saw him in red and not blue I thought it had to do with the payment. Didn't realize it was the league thing. Sorry.

Why the hostility?

Not enough caffeine.

Thanks for the coffee. I will contact you via IM for some roasting tips.
Sandman67  [Team Member]
8/3/2011 4:26:51 PM
Originally Posted By TerribleTom:

Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Originally Posted By TerribleTom:
Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Tom,

You can mark Heiny as paid in the first post. I received his paypal last week. It is noted in one of these posts. Thanks!

I suspect I will get Maverick and Larnmaster next week. You and Doug this week. That leaves just a few unpaid for this league....

I marked him paid a while ago when I saw the post acknowledging his payment. Did you even look at the OP?

Heine is marked as paid but he has not yet joined the Yahoo! league.

Yes I did, that is why I mentioned it. When I saw him in red and not blue I thought it had to do with the payment. Didn't realize it was the league thing. Sorry.

Why the hostility?

Not enough caffeine.

Thanks for the coffee. I will contact you via IM for some roasting tips.



I baited you and you responded appropriately

I'll look for your IM.
Sandman67  [Team Member]
8/4/2011 6:47:56 PM
Tom,

I got your check and Doug's check today.