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DavidC  [Team Member]
2/8/2012 9:54:38 AM
I'm looking at the Crucial m4 Series 128GB 2.5" SATA III 6G SSD


Seems reliable and relatively inexpensive.
SsevenN  [Member]
2/8/2012 12:12:47 PM

Originally Posted By DavidC:
I'm looking at the Crucial m4 Series 128GB 2.5" SATA III 6G SSD


Seems reliable and relatively inexpensive.

I just installed the 64GB version of that SSD yesterday, so far so good, the newegg reviews are very positive as well.

Double check if the 128GB models comes with a bay adapter, the 64GB version didn't, depending on your case you might need to purchase one.
501st  [Member]
2/8/2012 12:34:00 PM
Originally Posted By DavidC:
I'm looking at the Crucial m4 Series 128GB 2.5" SATA III 6G SSD


Seems reliable and relatively inexpensive.


Intel 320/510 for reliability.

Samsung 830 for speed.
Evilsmurfkilla  [Team Member]
2/10/2012 5:34:22 PM

Originally Posted By SsevenN:

Originally Posted By DavidC:
I'm looking at the Crucial m4 Series 128GB 2.5" SATA III 6G SSD


Seems reliable and relatively inexpensive.

I just installed the 64GB version of that SSD yesterday, so far so good, the newegg reviews are very positive as well.

Double check if the 128GB models comes with a bay adapter, the 64GB version didn't, depending on your case you might need to purchase one.

I've got the 64GB one that was being used as a cache drive on a Z68 chipset board. Bought it about 4 months ago, it went tits up this week.
pdg45acp  [Team Member]
2/10/2012 9:47:03 PM
I got a SanDisk Ultra SDSSDH-120G-G25 when they were on sale for $120 ( a buck a gig).

I put it in my old sata II quad core. So far so good.

NuCkInFuTz  [Member]
2/11/2012 3:14:15 AM
The Crucial M4s are about as tough as SSDs gets. Check this thread where people are torture testing their drives, and see just how tough they are. The M4 had written 768.57TB to a 64GB drive until the test rig was left underpowered for a couple of days, and data retention reared its long overdue head.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?271063-SSD-Write-Endurance-25nm-Vs-34nm
It did that without a single reallocated sector. It had reached MWI 0 in the SMART data @ 170.8TB, so it lived 4.5x what Crucial would of expected it to (when MWI reaches 0 the drive has met its rated useful life)
This is the postmortem post.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?271063-SSD-Write-Endurance-25nm-Vs-34nm&p=4989353&viewfull=1#post4989353

Samsungs are very reliable, but under heavy use they run into speed problems. I don't know if it ever got fixed, but this issue won't matter for a boot only/low-write drive.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?271063-SSD-Write-Endurance-25nm-Vs-34nm&p=5016808&viewfull=1#post5016808
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1661892

The Intel 320s are SATA 2 drives, so they will be slower than the M4s, but they are also very reliable. They're just slower.
Intel has recently released the 520 series, but I'm still waiting for the results on their reliability since they are based on a SandForce chipset controller. SandForce drives up until now have been absolute and complete shit reliability wise, with their only redeeming value being their superior speed. They have been aquired by LSI and Intel has their own proprietary firmware and other standards so in all likelihood they will be reliable, they're just overpriced right now.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5508/intel-ssd-520-review-cherryville-brings-reliability-to-sandforce

Going with the Crucial route, you just need to make sure that the drive is flashed to the latest firmware due to a small bug in the SMART values.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5424/crucial-provides-a-firmware-update-for-m4-to-fix-the-bsod-issue
DavidC  [Team Member]
2/11/2012 9:35:55 AM
I went with dual Crucial Force GT 120 GB drives running RAID 0 as the boot drive -

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1286851_Pick_apart_my_choices_for_a_new_computer_rig___updated_config_bottom_of_page_1_.html
DOUGHERTY03  [Team Member]
2/12/2012 3:49:59 AM
Originally Posted By DavidC:
I went with dual Crucial Force GT 120 GB drives running RAID 0 as the boot drive -

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1286851_Pick_apart_my_choices_for_a_new_computer_rig___updated_config_bottom_of_page_1_.html


How do you like it?
DavidC  [Team Member]
2/12/2012 2:42:12 PM
Originally Posted By DOUGHERTY03:
Originally Posted By DavidC:
I went with dual Crucial Force GT 120 GB drives running RAID 0 as the boot drive -

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1286851_Pick_apart_my_choices_for_a_new_computer_rig___updated_config_bottom_of_page_1_.html


How do you like it?


Don't know yet; the CPU (i7-3930K) for the new system is on backorder everywhere.
NuCkInFuTz  [Member]
2/12/2012 11:58:54 PM
Originally Posted By DavidC:
Originally Posted By DOUGHERTY03:
Originally Posted By DavidC:
I went with dual Crucial Force GT 120 GB drives running RAID 0 as the boot drive -

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1286851_Pick_apart_my_choices_for_a_new_computer_rig___updated_config_bottom_of_page_1_.html


How do you like it?


Don't know yet; the CPU (i7-3930K) for the new system is on backorder everywhere.


I'm one of the lucky ones. I got that processor in a bundle with the MSI X79A-GD65(8D) @ Tigerdirect back in early December, so I saved $20.

Now you can't even find them without people marking up the price a good $90+ just for the processor.

The rarity right now is due to Intel phasing out the c1 steppings for the c2. The switch over hasn't been going fast enough, and nobody expected the demand for a $600 cpu to be so big.
DavidC  [Team Member]
2/13/2012 7:40:22 AM
Originally Posted By NuCkInFuTz:
Originally Posted By DavidC:
Originally Posted By DOUGHERTY03:
Originally Posted By DavidC:
I went with dual Crucial Force GT 120 GB drives running RAID 0 as the boot drive -

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1286851_Pick_apart_my_choices_for_a_new_computer_rig___updated_config_bottom_of_page_1_.html


How do you like it?


Don't know yet; the CPU (i7-3930K) for the new system is on backorder everywhere.


I'm one of the lucky ones. I got that processor in a bundle with the MSI X79A-GD65(8D) @ Tigerdirect back in early December, so I saved $20.

Now you can't even find them without people marking up the price a good $90+ just for the processor.

The rarity right now is due to Intel phasing out the c1 steppings for the c2. The switch over hasn't been going fast enough, and nobody expected the demand for a $600 cpu to be so big.


The vendor I ordered the system from (for about $400 less than I could piece it together myself) tells me they expect the new CPUs in today.

We will see.

toast  [Team Member]
2/13/2012 8:27:23 AM
Don't you lose TRIM when you RAID SSD's?
DavidC  [Team Member]
2/13/2012 8:50:20 AM
Originally Posted By toast:
Don't you lose TRIM when you RAID SSD's?


I believe the current beta of RST supports TRIM iin RAID 0
NuCkInFuTz  [Member]
2/13/2012 1:29:37 PM
Originally Posted By DavidC:
Originally Posted By toast:
Don't you lose TRIM when you RAID SSD's?


I believe the current beta of RST supports TRIM iin RAID 0

Just keep backups of any important data on those SandForce chipset drives from Corsair.


Looking at where you're getting this stuff from, they don't give much choice. The only drives they have that aren't SandForce based are: the Kingston V200 and the Intel 320. The Intel 520 is still too expensive.
DavidC  [Team Member]
2/13/2012 1:59:26 PM
Originally Posted By NuCkInFuTz:
Originally Posted By DavidC:
Originally Posted By toast:
Don't you lose TRIM when you RAID SSD's?


I believe the current beta of RST supports TRIM iin RAID 0

Just keep backups of any important data on those SandForce chipset drives from Corsair.


Looking at where you're getting this stuff from, they don't give much choice. The only drives they have that aren't SandForce based are: the Kingston V200 and the Intel 320. The Intel 520 is still too expensive.


SSD RAID gets boot, apps, and swap file, and will be imaged after any modifications. Data goes on the rotating media with daily backups.