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So it looks like the D800 is going to be announced tomorrow
2/6/2012 12:59:20 PM
This will be my first full framer.
2/6/2012 5:52:46 PM
2/6/2012 5:55:02 PM
Nikon 
2/6/2012 8:20:37 PM
Meh, not a Canon. 
J/K, looks good.
J/K, looks good.
2/6/2012 10:20:00 PM
I hope it comes in under $3k. I have a little money stashed away for this camera.
2/7/2012 12:13:57 AM
Available for pre-order at B&H Photo. 
2/7/2012 4:21:36 AM
Originally Posted By theskuh:
I hope it comes in under $3k. I have a little money stashed away for this camera.
I hope it comes in under $3k. I have a little money stashed away for this camera.
Looks like you got your wish...
2/7/2012 9:07:46 AM
36 36.3 Megapixels.... Wow!
2/7/2012 1:41:08 PM
2/7/2012 6:15:19 PM
Came out cheaper than I was expecting. This might have to be my first FF camera.
2/7/2012 6:59:05 PM
Originally Posted By Buck_Naked:
Looks like you got your wish...
Originally Posted By theskuh:
I hope it comes in under $3k. I have a little money stashed away for this camera.
I hope it comes in under $3k. I have a little money stashed away for this camera.
Looks like you got your wish...
A good thing for my photos a bad thing for my savings account.
2/7/2012 8:02:20 PM
Landscapes will never be the same.
2/8/2012 11:16:15 AM
Originally Posted By M4-AK:
Landscapes will never be the same.
Landscapes will never be the same.
Eh, 36MP still doesn't compare to a 4x5.
Really though, this looks pretty nice.
2/8/2012 1:32:07 PM
This means that the 5DIII will come out probably at that price point...which sucks.
2/8/2012 2:42:41 PM
Originally Posted By SparticleBrane:
Eh, 36MP still doesn't compare to a 4x5.
Really though, this looks pretty nice.
Originally Posted By M4-AK:
Landscapes will never be the same.
Landscapes will never be the same.
Eh, 36MP still doesn't compare to a 4x5.
Really though, this looks pretty nice.
2/8/2012 5:09:40 PM
I don't think Canon will introduce a similar camera(an 36MP) for at least a year. Even the EOS-1d X is less than half the resolution, but over twice the FPS and with faster AF. Me.. I don't shoot high-speed, so this should fit the bill nicely. I think the slowness of the D800 FPS is due to using CF/SD card combo instead of the faster cards like the XQD cards... On the other hand.. I haven't seen any XQD cards in the stores, so something has to give.
Another tradeoff of the D800 is the lower ISO of 6.4K since they had to cram those 36MP into the sensor, so low-light shooting suffers. But if it is as close as the D700.. I would be happy.
Another tradeoff of the D800 is the lower ISO of 6.4K since they had to cram those 36MP into the sensor, so low-light shooting suffers. But if it is as close as the D700.. I would be happy.
2/8/2012 5:16:25 PM
Originally Posted By TeacherInCA:
I don't think Canon will introduce a similar camera(an 36MP) for at least a year. Even the EOS-1d X is less than half the resolution, but over twice the FPS and with faster AF. Me.. I don't shoot high-speed, so this should fit the bill nicely. I think the slowness of the D800 FPS is due to using CF/SD card combo instead of the faster cards like the XQD cards... On the other hand.. I haven't seen any XQD cards in the stores, so something has to give.
Another tradeoff of the D800 is the lower ISO of 6.4K since they had to cram those 36MP into the sensor, so low-light shooting suffers. But if it is as close as the D700.. I would be happy.
I don't think Canon will introduce a similar camera(an 36MP) for at least a year. Even the EOS-1d X is less than half the resolution, but over twice the FPS and with faster AF. Me.. I don't shoot high-speed, so this should fit the bill nicely. I think the slowness of the D800 FPS is due to using CF/SD card combo instead of the faster cards like the XQD cards... On the other hand.. I haven't seen any XQD cards in the stores, so something has to give.
Another tradeoff of the D800 is the lower ISO of 6.4K since they had to cram those 36MP into the sensor, so low-light shooting suffers. But if it is as close as the D700.. I would be happy.
18 or even 21(quality)megapixels has been more than enough for alot of people. Data management is hard enough with 20MB pictures and I rarely need to crop SO MUCH that 21MP isn't enough. MP count is fast becoming more of a marketing gimmick than a useful tool. That doesn't mean that a 21MP Canon at the same prosumer level won't cost the same $$$$ at release though...
2/10/2012 12:14:51 AM
80% of what I shoot (Editorial, Commercial, Retail) is in jpeg fine. Most customers don't need more than 6-8mp per image.
You start shooting in RAW or TIFF, files get big, quickly.
The D800 is going to kill any D3x sales. Not that it was a huge market.
CF/SD is like having 2 sizes of ammo.
ISO 6400 is what the D3 will do well, it's the same for the D700, same sensor. D3s, is a little faster. There isn't too much the D3s will shoot that the D3 won't shoot. I didn't rush out and sell my D3's for a couple of new D3s's, not that much of an improvement.
Most people don't need more than 4 fps. Field sports, sure, motor sports, sure...
The D4 has a similarly fucked deal with CF/XQD. Great, now I've got 2 kinds of cards.
Both the D3 and the D700 were game changers, the new D4/D800, not so much.
Only slightly faster than the D3s, 2 cards, sort of ok, what's next already. The D800 will sell to mp junkies. A guy at a fashion show last night was telling everyone that he had pre-orderd 2 D800's. I asked him how often he shot in RAW or TIFF.
Que the motorboat: But, but, but...
If it's your first FX or full frame format camera, hit it hard. With all those mp's, another reason medium format is fading out. 31 mp was as much as my 1st digital Hassie back, which was a fucking LOT more than $3k.
I'm more interested in any new big glass (400mm and up, will there be VRII versions out anytime soon?). 3 months after I bought my 200mm f2 VR, out came the VRII. Oh well.
You start shooting in RAW or TIFF, files get big, quickly.
The D800 is going to kill any D3x sales. Not that it was a huge market.
CF/SD is like having 2 sizes of ammo.
ISO 6400 is what the D3 will do well, it's the same for the D700, same sensor. D3s, is a little faster. There isn't too much the D3s will shoot that the D3 won't shoot. I didn't rush out and sell my D3's for a couple of new D3s's, not that much of an improvement.
Most people don't need more than 4 fps. Field sports, sure, motor sports, sure...
The D4 has a similarly fucked deal with CF/XQD. Great, now I've got 2 kinds of cards.
Both the D3 and the D700 were game changers, the new D4/D800, not so much.
Only slightly faster than the D3s, 2 cards, sort of ok, what's next already. The D800 will sell to mp junkies. A guy at a fashion show last night was telling everyone that he had pre-orderd 2 D800's. I asked him how often he shot in RAW or TIFF.
Que the motorboat: But, but, but...
If it's your first FX or full frame format camera, hit it hard. With all those mp's, another reason medium format is fading out. 31 mp was as much as my 1st digital Hassie back, which was a fucking LOT more than $3k.
I'm more interested in any new big glass (400mm and up, will there be VRII versions out anytime soon?). 3 months after I bought my 200mm f2 VR, out came the VRII. Oh well.
2/10/2012 12:55:16 AM
If you go with what the rumors were saying, the D800 is not the replacement for the D700. It is the replacement for the D3X.
While the D3/D3S got upgraded by the D4, the D700 is pretty much orphaned. Those who used the D700 as a low-light fast-FPS sports alternative to the D3 have only the D4 to move up do. Those using the D700 as a landscape/studio camera now have the D800 as the D3X upgrade.
While the D3/D3S got upgraded by the D4, the D700 is pretty much orphaned. Those who used the D700 as a low-light fast-FPS sports alternative to the D3 have only the D4 to move up do. Those using the D700 as a landscape/studio camera now have the D800 as the D3X upgrade.
2/10/2012 10:01:13 AM
The D800 is a game changer.
I don't understand the concerns about memory because memory is dirt cheap, and so are high performance processors.
The D800 encroaches far into medium format digital territory and into ENG video territory too. Studio, catalog and fashion shooters will be switching to the D800.
What will be interesting as this plays out is the effect the D800 will have on Nikkor lens design and cost. The 36 MP sensor will expose (pun intended) the weaknesses in optical performance of some beloved lens designs. I suspect the much lauded 24-70/2.8 AF-S will be an early casualty.
Also, I'm looking forward to the D4x with the same 36MP sensor.
I don't understand the concerns about memory because memory is dirt cheap, and so are high performance processors.
The D800 encroaches far into medium format digital territory and into ENG video territory too. Studio, catalog and fashion shooters will be switching to the D800.
What will be interesting as this plays out is the effect the D800 will have on Nikkor lens design and cost. The 36 MP sensor will expose (pun intended) the weaknesses in optical performance of some beloved lens designs. I suspect the much lauded 24-70/2.8 AF-S will be an early casualty.
Also, I'm looking forward to the D4x with the same 36MP sensor.
2/10/2012 10:28:01 AM
The D800 is more of a game changer than the D4. You are right, it is well into med. format file size.
My concern is 2 diff formats of mem cards, not the price. If you've got $3k for a new body, you can probably afford as many cards as you like.
If the D4x shoots cleanly to ISO 12800 or higher, I might buy one.
Problem is I do use a fast frame rate often.
Like I said, I'm more interested in any new glass (long) that might be around the corner.
My concern is 2 diff formats of mem cards, not the price. If you've got $3k for a new body, you can probably afford as many cards as you like.
If the D4x shoots cleanly to ISO 12800 or higher, I might buy one.
Problem is I do use a fast frame rate often.
Like I said, I'm more interested in any new glass (long) that might be around the corner.
2/10/2012 12:31:01 PM
Originally Posted By CaymanSman:
The D800 is more of a game changer than the D4. You are right, it is well into med. format file size.
My concern is 2 diff formats of mem cards, not the price. If you've got $3k for a new body, you can probably afford as many cards as you like.
If the D4x shoots cleanly to ISO 12800 or higher, I might buy one.
Problem is I do use a fast frame rate often.
Like I said, I'm more interested in any new glass (long) that might be around the corner.
The D800 is more of a game changer than the D4. You are right, it is well into med. format file size.
My concern is 2 diff formats of mem cards, not the price. If you've got $3k for a new body, you can probably afford as many cards as you like.
If the D4x shoots cleanly to ISO 12800 or higher, I might buy one.
Problem is I do use a fast frame rate often.
Like I said, I'm more interested in any new glass (long) that might be around the corner.
I have been running my SDHC cards in a CF adapter. Works fine. It is what I would do when I get the D800.
2/10/2012 1:23:51 PM
I think a part of the reason for dual format memory cards is future-proofing the camera, because CF cards can't have a whole lot of years left. They are just too clumsy-big in this day and age.
2/10/2012 2:27:42 PM
Originally Posted By Danner130:
I think a part of the reason for dual format memory cards is future-proofing the camera, because CF cards can't have a whole lot of years left. They are just too clumsy-big in this day and age.
I think a part of the reason for dual format memory cards is future-proofing the camera, because CF cards can't have a whole lot of years left. They are just too clumsy-big in this day and age.
I love them, harder to lose. Sure we could use micro-SD for cameras, but do you really want something that you need a magnifying glass and tweezers to remove? CF cards don't really add much weight or expense, for a DSLR it doesn't require that the camera be larger to accommodate it...so...I'm not really complaining. My first two CF cards cost $400 for a 1GB IBM Microdrive and like $600 for a 640MB solid state card, since then, they have kept pace with the market and never really expanded beyond professional DSLRs. I hope they stay for a while...
2/10/2012 2:33:18 PM
I love the CF size too. But I spend a bunch of my time running GH2's for video so I have many many more SDHC cards than I do CF's I have a bunch of 4 gig CF's from back in the day but they fill up pretty fast. The 32g SD's not so much. I don't see myself buying anymore CF since I can only use them in a couple of my cameras. The SDs I can use in pretty much everything and run adapters when I need CP. GoPro, T2i basically whatever I pick up besides my higher end stills cameras is going to have SD in them. And being able to just slide them into the MBpro is another nice SD feature.
I have already had the little lock lever fall out of one of my sd's I think that needs to go. It is a week spot.
I have already had the little lock lever fall out of one of my sd's I think that needs to go. It is a week spot.
2/18/2012 6:21:29 AM
Anybody hear any delivery times yet?
2/18/2012 8:22:46 AM
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2/18/2012 12:38:58 PM
Originally Posted By theskuh:
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