About to splurge on a Canon 60D
As the title says, I have been itching to get a new DSLR since I sold my D5000 earlier this year. I want to get something with more MP than my last and a better kit lense, the 60D look like a good candidate.
I looked into D7000s but the Canon is cheaper and has some features I like.
Any comments or opinions on the 60D are welcomed. Any 60D owners here?
Oh, I found one locally with the kit lens and a 50mm lens for $800, seems to be a pretty good deal.
Ian
Originally Posted By isullivan:
As the title says, I have been itching to get a new DSLR since I sold my D5000 earlier this year. I want to get something with more MP than my last and a better kit lense, the 60D look like a good candidate.
I looked into D7000s but the Canon is cheaper and has some features I like.
Any comments or opinions on the 60D are welcomed. Any 60D owners here?
Oh, I found one locally with the kit lens and a 50mm lens for $800, seems to be a pretty good deal.
Ian
I'd urge you to reconsider the D7000 since is a bit better than the 60D.
Not to mention the 60D was a letdown compared to its predecessor the 50D.
Kit lenses aren't really are that great, you won't find any advantages with the 60D kit lens over what is bundled with the Nikon's.
If the D7000 is out of your price range you may want to look at the D5100 which uses the same sensor as the D7000 and is a bit cheaper.
Don't use megapickles as your sole choosing point. Even the 12MP on your D5000 is enough to blow to a large poster easily.
Try to figure out what features you use the most and decide which camera covers that the best. (like easy to reach shutter speed, f stop and iso; dynamic range adjustment, white balance, auto shutter frame rate, and number of autofocus points)
I'm a Canon guy and love my 50D, but the 60D does not impress. It feels cheap and I didn't like the controls. The 50D is a solid product that a lot of pros use as their backup body. I don't see that as much with the 60D.
Here's my Canon question, in 2011 they came out with the t3i and the 1D X. I'm interested in the 60d, the 7d or the 5d, but I'm hesitant to buy because it seems like they would be right on the cusp of releasing new models. Any ideas ony the pace of their development cycle?
Originally Posted By edb66:
Here's my Canon question, in 2011 they came out with the t3i and the 1D X. I'm interested in the 60d, the 7d or the 5d, but I'm hesitant to buy because it seems like they would be right on the cusp of releasing new models. Any ideas on the pace of their development cycle?
The answer is, "so what?" The cameras in their lineup now far exceed what most people want, no less need. We've reached a resolution ceiling for 80%+ of users, even their cheap cameras can turn out 11x14 and larger prints without a problem and the file sizes have become unwieldy, even with today's cheap firewire 800 storage media, moving 16GB of pictures from a shoot around doesn't happen very fast. So, while we'll see sensor upgrades, after Canon's 18 and 21MP FF sensors, it's really just mostly unnecessary. The features people are watching, AF systems, buffer speeds and high speed functions beyond 12fps, will all start to trickle down to lower models, but only a small slice of the market will really benefit from them. Build quality and glass are the next big items, and the technology is there so it's just a matter of when. Most people won't buy L glass though and few consumers are beating their pro-grade gear to death so who has weather sealing and a magnesium body are not really major issues.
Canon just lowered the price on the 5D MK II so you can bet a new one is just a few months away. 7D is probably good for another couple of years.
Originally Posted By MissouriBob:
Canon just lowered the price on the 5D MK II so you can bet a new one is just a few months away. 7D is probably good for another couple of years.
I'll believe it when I see the announcement from Canon. I've been waiting for the 5D Mark II successor since Summer. Even when Canon announces a new 5D Mark II replacement, odds are it won't be available at vendors for at least another 6 months.
But the only thing I really 'need' from a 5D Mark II successor is an improved AF system that works better in low light. Other than that, my 5D Mark II is a great camera. I also love my 7D, but it's sort of my backup camera and my casual camera that I carry when I'm not intending to take photos.
Originally Posted By ocabj:
Originally Posted By MissouriBob:
Canon just lowered the price on the 5D MK II so you can bet a new one is just a few months away. 7D is probably good for another couple of years.
I'll believe it when I see the announcement from Canon. I've been waiting for the 5D Mark II successor since Summer. Even when Canon announces a new 5D Mark II replacement, odds are it won't be available at vendors for at least another 6 months.
But the only thing I really 'need' from a 5D Mark II successor is an improved AF system that works better in low light. Other than that, my 5D Mark II is a great camera. I also love my 7D, but it's sort of my backup camera and my casual camera that I carry when I'm not intending to take photos.
7D is great for sports and supierior to the 5D for that subject. Otherwise 5D.
Originally Posted By emsjeep:
Originally Posted By edb66:
Here's my Canon question, in 2011 they came out with the t3i and the 1D X. I'm interested in the 60d, the 7d or the 5d, but I'm hesitant to buy because it seems like they would be right on the cusp of releasing new models. Any ideas on the pace of their development cycle?
The answer is, "so what?" The cameras in their lineup now far exceed what most people want, no less need. We've reached a resolution ceiling for 80%+ of users, even their cheap cameras can turn out 11x14 and larger prints without a problem and the file sizes have become unwieldy, even with today's cheap firewire 800 storage media, moving 16GB of pictures from a shoot around doesn't happen very fast. So, while we'll see sensor upgrades, after Canon's 18 and 21MP FF sensors, it's really just mostly unnecessary. The features people are watching, AF systems, buffer speeds and high speed functions beyond 12fps, will all start to trickle down to lower models, but only a small slice of the market will really benefit from them. Build quality and glass are the next big items, and the technology is there so it's just a matter of when. Most people won't buy L glass though and few consumers are beating their pro-grade gear to death so who has weather sealing and a magnesium body are not really major issues.
I am interested in the connectivity capabilities between Android devices and Canon DSLRs and I'm guessing that capabilities are less with camera models that were developed 2-3 years ago.
Originally Posted By edb66:
Originally Posted By emsjeep:
Originally Posted By edb66:
Here's my Canon question, in 2011 they came out with the t3i and the 1D X. I'm interested in the 60d, the 7d or the 5d, but I'm hesitant to buy because it seems like they would be right on the cusp of releasing new models. Any ideas on the pace of their development cycle?
The answer is, "so what?" The cameras in their lineup now far exceed what most people want, no less need. We've reached a resolution ceiling for 80%+ of users, even their cheap cameras can turn out 11x14 and larger prints without a problem and the file sizes have become unwieldy, even with today's cheap firewire 800 storage media, moving 16GB of pictures from a shoot around doesn't happen very fast. So, while we'll see sensor upgrades, after Canon's 18 and 21MP FF sensors, it's really just mostly unnecessary. The features people are watching, AF systems, buffer speeds and high speed functions beyond 12fps, will all start to trickle down to lower models, but only a small slice of the market will really benefit from them. Build quality and glass are the next big items, and the technology is there so it's just a matter of when. Most people won't buy L glass though and few consumers are beating their pro-grade gear to death so who has weather sealing and a magnesium body are not really major issues.
I am interested in the connectivity capabilities between Android devices and Canon DSLRs and I'm guessing that capabilities are less with camera models that were developed 2-3 years ago.
To do what?
Here's my Canon question, in 2011 they came out with the t3i and the 1D X. I'm interested in the 60d, the 7d or the 5d, but I'm hesitant to buy because it seems like they would be right on the cusp of releasing new models. Any ideas on the pace of their development cycle?
The next 5D will probably be announced sometime in 2012. Probably.
I wouldn't expect to hear anything about a 7D replacement until fall of 2012.
I am interested in the connectivity capabilities between Android devices and Canon DSLRs and I'm guessing that capabilities are less with camera models that were developed 2-3 years ago.
2-3 years ago should be fine. You're still looking at 7D and 5D mk II in that age bracket, after all. 50D should also be fine but the 40D will probably not be 100%. Older cameras that do not have on-camera live view are likely to be severely limited.
Originally Posted By edb66:
Originally Posted By emsjeep:
Originally Posted By edb66:
Here's my Canon question, in 2011 they came out with the t3i and the 1D X. I'm interested in the 60d, the 7d or the 5d, but I'm hesitant to buy because it seems like they would be right on the cusp of releasing new models. Any ideas on the pace of their development cycle?
The answer is, "so what?" The cameras in their lineup now far exceed what most people want, no less need. We've reached a resolution ceiling for 80%+ of users, even their cheap cameras can turn out 11x14 and larger prints without a problem and the file sizes have become unwieldy, even with today's cheap firewire 800 storage media, moving 16GB of pictures from a shoot around doesn't happen very fast. So, while we'll see sensor upgrades, after Canon's 18 and 21MP FF sensors, it's really just mostly unnecessary. The features people are watching, AF systems, buffer speeds and high speed functions beyond 12fps, will all start to trickle down to lower models, but only a small slice of the market will really benefit from them. Build quality and glass are the next big items, and the technology is there so it's just a matter of when. Most people won't buy L glass though and few consumers are beating their pro-grade gear to death so who has weather sealing and a magnesium body are not really major issues.
I am interested in the connectivity capabilities between Android devices and Canon DSLRs and I'm guessing that capabilities are less with camera models that were developed 2-3 years ago.
As I understand it, it's not really a hardware issue, you just need someone willing to develop the software on the Android side. The 5D2 is capable of shooting tethered to a number of devices, including Mac and PC platforms. I've use it on my Mac for product photography, it's nice to have hands off for long exposures. I don't know if Canon will ever go to the trouble of developing phone friendly software and cables on it's own. It's neat, but its not such a big market.
Originally Posted By emsjeep:
Originally Posted By edb66:
Originally Posted By emsjeep:
Originally Posted By edb66:
Here's my Canon question, in 2011 they came out with the t3i and the 1D X. I'm interested in the 60d, the 7d or the 5d, but I'm hesitant to buy because it seems like they would be right on the cusp of releasing new models. Any ideas on the pace of their development cycle?
The answer is, "so what?" The cameras in their lineup now far exceed what most people want, no less need. We've reached a resolution ceiling for 80%+ of users, even their cheap cameras can turn out 11x14 and larger prints without a problem and the file sizes have become unwieldy, even with today's cheap firewire 800 storage media, moving 16GB of pictures from a shoot around doesn't happen very fast. So, while we'll see sensor upgrades, after Canon's 18 and 21MP FF sensors, it's really just mostly unnecessary. The features people are watching, AF systems, buffer speeds and high speed functions beyond 12fps, will all start to trickle down to lower models, but only a small slice of the market will really benefit from them. Build quality and glass are the next big items, and the technology is there so it's just a matter of when. Most people won't buy L glass though and few consumers are beating their pro-grade gear to death so who has weather sealing and a magnesium body are not really major issues.
I am interested in the connectivity capabilities between Android devices and Canon DSLRs and I'm guessing that capabilities are less with camera models that were developed 2-3 years ago.
As I understand it, it's not really a hardware issue, you just need someone willing to develop the software on the Android side. The 5D2 is capable of shooting tethered to a number of devices, including Mac and PC platforms. I've use it on my Mac for product photography, it's nice to have hands off for long exposures. I don't know if Canon will ever go to the trouble of developing phone friendly software and cables on it's own. It's neat, but its not such a big market.
I actually looked pretty hard at doing this for android, but Google left out most of the critical graphics libraries necessary to do that low level manipulation of raw files. That would have meant having to rewrite all those classes from scratch and test it against the Android port before ever starting to write any real software for the device. I just bought a 13" mac book pro. It can do anything I want and was probably cheaper in the long run considering how much time building android software would have taken.
Originally Posted By isullivan:
As the title says, I have been itching to get a new DSLR since I sold my D5000 earlier this year. I want to get something with more MP than my last and a better kit lense, the 60D look like a good candidate.
I looked into D7000s but the Canon is cheaper and has some features I like.
Any comments or opinions on the 60D are welcomed. Any 60D owners here?
Oh, I found one locally with the kit lens and a 50mm lens for $800, seems to be a pretty good deal.
Ian
Getting better image quality is a function of the glass you use, not how many megapixels the camera has. I like Nikons, and the D7000 is a hell of a camera, but what you really want to drop money into is lenses.
I am looking into a D5100 or a D90. D90 may be the better way to go for me because it has a built in focus motor which opens up my lens options, it doesn't have the flip out LCD or 1080p video but I decided that 1080p is nice but after all it is picture camera primarily.
I ended up getting a a D90 with a 18-200mm . Picked the combo up for $800 a hell of a deal IMO.
This thread is worthless without pictures.
OK...
