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 T-Rize and Shred Matrix- anyone try them?
ugagrad06  [Member]
3/16/2012 4:23:16 PM
anyone try them? starting today and will document my stats.

Weight: 185
Height: 6'0
Fitness level: good to very good

goals: kill the last little bit of fat around the mid section and increase both strength and mass

workout routine: 3/4 mile run @ #3 incline, stretch, 1/4 mile sprint, stretch, and then begin whatever Crossfit workout is on the site. varies greatly from day to day but is centered around olympic, compound lifts. push ups, sit ups, pullups, box jumps, cleans, squats, and cardio. all exercises are done in rapid succession and my workouts usually last anywhere from 30-45 minutes including the stretching and warm up.

Diet:

Breakfast:
protein (eggs or meat)
Some type of veggies

Snack:
Banana or apple and some raw, sliced almonds

Lunch:
protein (usually chicken breast, low sodium lunch meat, etc)
veggies (carrots, celery, baby spinach)

snack:
Banana or apple and some raw, sliced almonds

post-workout:
whey protein isolate shake

dinner:
salads, soups, grilled meats (venison, chicken, turkey, grass fed beef, etc), grilled fish, veggies

snack: sliced almonds or slow-metabolizing protein (casein)

other supplements:
fish oil
Curcumin
Spirrulina
Wobenzyme
Multi-vitamin
drew5337  [Team Member]
3/16/2012 4:41:00 PM
Diet looks pretty much perfect, watch the soups though, they can sneak up on you in carbs and fat.

You are 5lbs lighter than me, same height, probably similar fitness though I'd wager your ahead. I've done a lot of P90X but just recently got into crossfit and realized I can't lift shit yet.

If you want to take some kind of supplement to raise metabolism for fat burning, EC stacking is almost certainly cheaper, and probably more effective than anything you get at GNC or Complete Nutrition.

Doing a couple of metcon WOD's per day probably has a similar effect.
Thunder900  [Team Member]
3/16/2012 4:46:02 PM
Cut back on Cardio if you are trying to increase strength quickly, unless you are doing WOD's with no strength modification. Also watch recovery. BTW, what are your strength numbers (1rm in back squat, bench, clean, press, and deadlift)?
RolandofGilead  [Team Member]
3/16/2012 4:51:45 PM
Diet looks good man, good luck. You might want to experiment with some lower sugar fruit if you're trying to trim down a little.

Mainpage sucks for getting stronger, so I'd recommend cutting back on the long metcons and doing starting strength or 5/3/1 along side it. There's another thread on here about a westside mix with CF too that looks interesting...you may want to check it out.
ugagrad06  [Member]
3/18/2012 1:17:44 PM
Strength stats:

Bench- 215
Squat- 365
Press- 225
Clean- 215

I've NEVER had a strong chest or bench and that is a focus of mine right now. In my "prime" I could squat around 450 and have always had monster legs, but I've never benched more than 215. Ever.

The workouts I do are not from the standard crossfit website. My box's website is Crossfit south cobb. We do a lot more strength exercise and not nearly as many aamraps and metcons as the normal crossfit site. I also add in strength lifts and heavy days in addition to my crossfit workouts.

Day 3 of the t-rise and no real change in feeling. After I take it, I do feel a slight "bump" but nothing like you get with a good per-workout drink. I'm laying off the shred matrix until I get back from Mexico. Don't want to try something new like that in another country.

Buddy said I should start to see some good gains about 3 weeks in... Will keep updating.
GUNGUY148  [Team Member]
3/18/2012 2:28:11 PM
Do you really press more than you bench or was that a typo?
ugagrad06  [Member]
3/18/2012 4:24:08 PM
No typo... Sad, huh? It's always been a weak link for me. Crazy power in my legs, back, shoulders, etc. just nothing there for my chest. I definitely get extra lb's from my form on lifts like cleans and press/jerk.

Confuses me just as much as anyone, but that's why I'm putting a heavy focus on my chest and building it up.
ugagrad06  [Member]
3/18/2012 4:28:59 PM
Originally Posted By Thunder900:
Cut back on Cardio if you are trying to increase strength quickly, unless you are doing WOD's with no strength modification. Also watch recovery. BTW, what are your strength numbers (1rm in back squat, bench, clean, press, and deadlift)?


Check out my supplement list at the bottom of my first post. The fish oil, wobenzyme, and curcumin are all anti-inflammatory. My recovery time is usually 24 hours if not less. Maybe a day and a half if i lift really heavy. I also suck down 1+ gallons of water a day. My chiropractor turned me on to the wobenzyme and curcumin and I LOVE the stuff. Lots of other benefits from those two also. I highly suggest you guys look them up and consider incorporating them in to your supplement mix.
GUNGUY148  [Team Member]
3/18/2012 4:55:25 PM
Originally Posted By ugagrad06:
No typo... Sad, huh? It's always been a weak link for me. Crazy power in my legs, back, shoulders, etc. just nothing there for my chest. I definitely get extra lb's from my form on lifts like cleans and press/jerk.

Confuses me just as much as anyone, but that's why I'm putting a heavy focus on my chest and building it up.


I wouldn't say sad but it is rather odd... I'm sure you can go 275 in no time.

I'm at the other end of the spectrum. Before I hurt my arm I could bench 245 and press 135
MrMojoRising  [Team Member]
3/19/2012 4:57:11 PM
Looked at both supps, sorry but don't expect much.

You'll be getting a shit ton of zinc and magnesium between the two of them which is the only decent things I found.

Other than that it's a lot of stimulants, some niacin (hello tingles!) and quite a bit of herbals that have been shown to do jack and shit.

darktide  [Team Member]
3/19/2012 5:03:03 PM
If that is a 225 strict OHP, I'm 95+% sure that your deficient benchpress is due to technique problem...
Thunder900  [Team Member]
3/20/2012 1:28:16 AM
Try Crossfit Football, or sit back about three days from mainpage and add strength work in before the WOD's. Scale back some of the WOD's in time (you can increase weight on them) and only do the long ones when heroes and benchmarks show up.

You would probably do best following the collegiate or pro lifting programs if you follow CFFB, as these have more oly lifts in them.