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Posted: 4/7/2024 9:45:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mPisi: SRA mad, LOL. Multicam was so great when it was still a civilian camo  . Going mainstream meant lots of gear available etc, but as you say, possibly problematic on the IFF side.I like RBS and it works well in my area too. I've been a FFV buyer since their beginning. But it does have a negative connotation with some folks. Most of whom I probably wouldn't want to know, but I'd also like the opportunity to fly under their radar too. I like the West German Stumpftarn from FFV, but again, folks think it is Third Reich. So I'm down to niche stuff like Pencott Badlands or Devil Dog, or Finnish M04 desert. There's some other super-cool stuff but you're stuck with 1 item. So most of the time I'm probably going to be in khaki pants with a gucci camo top  . And it's hard to get specialty items like cold-weather gear. All I'm asking for is a perfect copy of the Brit PCS smock in RBS or something cool instead of MTP (their multicam). I wear that smock the most out of anything camo since it's so useful and comfortable.Gear wise I prefer khaki colors where possible, but settle for coyote brown a lot of the time. Edit: forgot the memes: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13081/guilded_image_67df2874591971fa2cfc922f5f-3181571.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13081/guilded_image_cb5a3520a4811c145f7a991a57-3181572.JPG I'm waiting on my sumpftarn 
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Posted: 4/7/2024 9:45:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: I like that meme with Che and Dennis Croukamp.  RBS is my go-to here if I'm not doing Multicam/MTP. Need to get another combat shirt from FFV. This makes me happy to have shared a beer or three with you Sir |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 10:18:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mPisi: SRA mad, LOL. Multicam was so great when it was still a civilian camo . Going mainstream meant lots of gear available etc, but as you say, possibly problematic on the IFF side.I like RBS and it works well in my area too. I've been a FFV buyer since their beginning. But it does have a negative connotation with some folks. Most of whom I probably wouldn't want to know, but I'd also like the opportunity to fly under their radar too. I like the West German Stumpftarn from FFV, but again, folks think it is Third Reich. So I'm down to niche stuff like Pencott Badlands or Devil Dog, or Finnish M04 desert. There's some other super-cool stuff but you're stuck with 1 item. So most of the time I'm probably going to be in khaki pants with a gucci camo top . And it's hard to get specialty items like cold-weather gear. All I'm asking for is a perfect copy of the Brit PCS smock in RBS or something cool instead of MTP (their multicam). I wear that smock the most out of anything camo since it's so useful and comfortable.I hear you on patterns having negative connotations with some folks. It's not just Stumpftarn, but literally any German camo pattern will get folks to scream "Nazi!", and RBS gets you immediately called a racist/white supremacist/whatever. Of course, the more stuff they try to lump into that category, the less meaning it has. I agree with the big problem with specialty/niche camo patterns is the lack of availability of cold/wet weather gear. I've been pestering What Price Glory to make their M1951 field Jacket in RBS, to no avail. A legit smock would be awesome. Otherwise, I'm sticking to OD, CB, and khaki gear for the cold/wet weather options. Stealing the two button meme, BTW. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 11:48:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alpha-17: I agree with the big problem with specialty/niche camo patterns is the lack of availability of cold/wet weather gear. I've been pestering What Price Glory to make their M1951 field Jacket in RBS, to no avail. A legit smock would be awesome. Otherwise, I'm sticking to OD, CB, and khaki gear for the cold/wet weather options. FFV is working on a new smock design, it would be RBS and their other camos. Taking a lot from the PCS smock but a tiny bit more like a rain jacket. Hank posted a first try in the Buyers Club and showed what changes they were making for the next prototype. Sadly, my recommendation for pit zips from wrist to waist got shot down, but there will be pit zips. End digression from plate carriers. There's a few plate carriers made in RBS. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 2:07:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: I mocked up the amount I'd need for a hasty, full body drag handle of a roughly adult sized person and added a few feet for the tie off. It's not perfect but that's OK with me. We're talking very niche stuff that almost certainly will never be used. It takes up little room and weighs nothing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: Originally Posted By shooter_gregg: How much flat tubing is usually carried on a PC? It takes up little room and weighs nothing. Can someone please explain what is meant by flat tubing? Is it a roll of webbing to be used to drag wounded? |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 2:09:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Teller_Ulam: Can someone please explain what is meant by flat tubing? Is it a roll of webbing to be used to drag wounded? yes |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 8:25:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: This makes me happy to have shared a beer or three with you Sir Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By lew: I like that meme with Che and Dennis Croukamp. RBS is my go-to here if I'm not doing Multicam/MTP. Need to get another combat shirt from FFV. This makes me happy to have shared a beer or three with you Sir We'll have to do it again sometime soonish. 
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Posted: 4/8/2024 9:12:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: I'm waiting on my sumpftarn  Not PC but arrived today |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:22:08 AM EDT
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Gentlemen, choose your garments and tactical Gear on practicality and quality, not on the cool factor of some weird camo. The premium $ that many of these camouflages sell for are in my opinion not worth, as the premium goes go over the price of small batch printing. Often the material Is far East made and the garmfnt cut Is not particularly well thought. That said they are way cool.
Re the tubular webbing this Is the one i mounted to a PC. Mine Is fixed with inner tube strips, looks tight, but member daemon374 that has extensive experience with It has had snagging problems that he resolved with a velcro opening sleeve to put the webbing in (i Will definitely touch on the subject on the next medical training). Depending on your needs It May be used alongside a standard short drag handles (i already touched on the subject but there are some of our SOPs during movement in built up areas that involve using the short drag handle. PS: Is the skedco kosmo mount lifeline still a thing? 20 years ago It was all the range, i still think i like the idea PPS: when those straps were introduced someone also put a carabiner on the lower part to attach the loop to the tactical belt of the trousers belt. Is It still done?    Ars arma JPC Tactical tailor modified utility pouch Tasmanian Tiger double M4 stretch pouch Eagle industries double Mag pouch Tag radio pouch Mordor tac zip off pack Hsgi ifak pouch Tasmanian Tiger modified smoke grenade pouch. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 10:07:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joeviterbo: …Re the tubular webbing this Is the one i mounted to a PC. Mine Is fixed with inner tube strips, looks tight, but member daemon374 that has extensive experience with It has had snagging problems that he resolved with a velcro opening sleeve to put the webbing in (i Will definitely touch on the subject on the next medical training). … PPS: when those straps were introduced someone also put a carabiner on the lower part to attach the loop to the tactical belt of the trousers belt. Is It still done? My old team used and trained with the DARC strap - the 1” tubular nylon webbing woven thru your rear plate bags molle, then finishing with a carabiner attached to your rear belt. We tried lots of extraction under fire methods and this worked best for us. We refined it by using 1/2” tubular webbing and tucking the excess into a small zip molle pocket woven into the top rear bag. Much less snag hazard this way. My current team does not use DARC straps. There are some guys who are carrying a long daisy chained section of webbing in their kit ala what they see on their insta feeds but really don’t know what to do with them. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 1:05:42 PM EDT
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State of the art rescue strap, circa 2004
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Posted: 4/10/2024 6:42:58 PM EDT
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Agilite K Zero ( will be ditching the two pistol mags on PC
   With Structured Cumberbund......................  I have the K19 3.0 in RG, Esstac D in MC Blk, Crye JPC 2.0 in Coy all kitted from heavy to light..............................Placard from the Pincer, KSleds, Haley, KTAR, Esstac, Spiritus and more shit than I will ever fucking setup but I'm good with my K Zero or JPC..................K19 I would've loved during deployment but will never need it as in a civilian role so I'll probably sell it or give it to one of my sons................. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 6:34:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: shwa]
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Could use some advice in picking a carrier. Using hesco l211 plates. Want something that I can keep pretty trim but have a structural cummerbund and hydration pack. I have it narrowed down to 3 with an additional 2 wildcards.
First two picks would be the MEPC or Plate Carrier 06 or even the plate carrier 13 to save a few bucks. 3rd pick would be the K-Zero noting that this would be the bulkiest of the bunch and the priciest. The 2 wildcards are a little less popular being OPT/Velocity LWPC and the Velocity LEPC Though not sure that these two offer anything that the MEPC or 06 cannot. Not entirely sure on what cummerbund I want but the axl seems to be all the rage. Getting that to work with any of the above is something I havent quite figured out yet. Probably going to use the sleds placard. Any thoughts or observations or feedback is welcome. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 6:40:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: Agilite K Zero ( will be ditching the two pistol mags on PC https://i.imgur.com/PaokK4l.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jRQMXd4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hCNADuv.jpg With Structured Cumberbund...................... https://i.imgur.com/aHRiNZa.jpg I have the K19 3.0 in RG, Esstac D in MC Blk, Crye JPC 2.0 in Coy all kitted from heavy to light..............................Placard from the Pincer, KSleds, Haley, KTAR, Esstac, Spiritus and more shit than I will ever fucking setup but I'm good with my K Zero or JPC..................K19 I would've loved during deployment but will never need it as in a civilian role so I'll probably sell it or give it to one of my sons................. First time I've seen thier structured cummerbund. Looks like a nice improvement. It's very similar to the Shaw ARC. |
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Posted: 4/12/2024 7:11:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AWHAILYEAH]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeatBag: First time I've seen thier structured cummerbund. Looks like a nice improvement. It's very similar to the Shaw ARC. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeatBag: Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: Agilite K Zero ( will be ditching the two pistol mags on PC https://i.imgur.com/PaokK4l.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jRQMXd4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hCNADuv.jpg With Structured Cumberbund...................... https://i.imgur.com/aHRiNZa.jpg I have the K19 3.0 in RG, Esstac D in MC Blk, Crye JPC 2.0 in Coy all kitted from heavy to light..............................Placard from the Pincer, KSleds, Haley, KTAR, Esstac, Spiritus and more shit than I will ever fucking setup but I'm good with my K Zero or JPC..................K19 I would've loved during deployment but will never need it as in a civilian role so I'll probably sell it or give it to one of my sons................. First time I've seen thier structured cummerbund. Looks like a nice improvement. It's very similar to the Shaw ARC. Made a huge difference! And to poster above the Crye JPC 2.0 is my go to for ultra slim! Also the K-Zero is pretty slim I just had a moment and a dollar so I bought everything and loaded that bitch out lol!! It’s all coming off except the Pincer Placard although it too might go because Unobtanium Gear Sleds placards are the shit for ultra light and sleek ETA: The rear of the carrier looks bulky because I went from slick to the AMP3 to what’s now mounted but empty the Micro Map Panel. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:31:44 AM EDT
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Any recommendations for a skeletonized cummerbund for a LBT 6094?
Ones I’ve found thus far are the MOS, Spiritus, and Beez, leaning towards the MOS. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 3:36:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: Any recommendations for a skeletonized cummerbund for a LBT 6094? Ones I’ve found thus far are the MOS, Spiritus, and Beez, leaning towards the MOS. Do you want structural/rigid? |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:36:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: Do you want structural/rigid? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By rb889: Any recommendations for a skeletonized cummerbund for a LBT 6094? Ones I’ve found thus far are the MOS, Spiritus, and Beez, leaning towards the MOS. Do you want structural/rigid? Not particularly. Don’t plan on stacking much of anything on the cummerbund, just trying to get something more breathable. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 11:19:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: Not particularly. Don’t plan on stacking much of anything on the cummerbund, just trying to get something more breathable. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By rb889: Any recommendations for a skeletonized cummerbund for a LBT 6094? Ones I’ve found thus far are the MOS, Spiritus, and Beez, leaning towards the MOS. Do you want structural/rigid? Not particularly. Don’t plan on stacking much of anything on the cummerbund, just trying to get something more breathable. I'd ditch skeletal and go elastic. Or a hybrid of sorts if you need some molle. It'll be more form fitting and move with you better. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:25:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: I'd ditch skeletal and go elastic. Or a hybrid of sorts if you need some molle. It'll be more form fitting and move with you better. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By rb889: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By rb889: Any recommendations for a skeletonized cummerbund for a LBT 6094? Ones I’ve found thus far are the MOS, Spiritus, and Beez, leaning towards the MOS. Do you want structural/rigid? Not particularly. Don’t plan on stacking much of anything on the cummerbund, just trying to get something more breathable. I'd ditch skeletal and go elastic. Or a hybrid of sorts if you need some molle. It'll be more form fitting and move with you better. Tried full elastic ones before, wasn’t a huge fan, but that was with single curve plates that weren’t a great fit. Was also thinking long term durability, it’s easy/cheap enough to replace shock cord, full elastic means having to replace the entire thing once it wears out, plus it’s more liable to get shredded in the bush. Though seeing how few options still use threaded shock cord, I was considering a FCPC for the built in QD shoulder strap if I couldn’t find what I wanted for the 6094. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 10:45:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: Tried full elastic ones before, wasn’t a huge fan, but that was with single curve plates that weren’t a great fit. Was also thinking long term durability, it’s easy/cheap enough to replace shock cord, full elastic means having to replace the entire thing once it wears out, plus it’s more liable to get shredded in the bush. Though seeing how few options still use threaded shock cord, I was considering a FCPC for the built in QD shoulder strap if I couldn’t find what I wanted for the 6094. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By rb889: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By rb889: Any recommendations for a skeletonized cummerbund for a LBT 6094? Ones I’ve found thus far are the MOS, Spiritus, and Beez, leaning towards the MOS. Do you want structural/rigid? Not particularly. Don’t plan on stacking much of anything on the cummerbund, just trying to get something more breathable. I'd ditch skeletal and go elastic. Or a hybrid of sorts if you need some molle. It'll be more form fitting and move with you better. Tried full elastic ones before, wasn’t a huge fan, but that was with single curve plates that weren’t a great fit. Was also thinking long term durability, it’s easy/cheap enough to replace shock cord, full elastic means having to replace the entire thing once it wears out, plus it’s more liable to get shredded in the bush. Though seeing how few options still use threaded shock cord, I was considering a FCPC for the built in QD shoulder strap if I couldn’t find what I wanted for the 6094. At that point then the sky's the limit. The spiritus is semi-rigid... the rest you mentioned are not |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:08:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: At that point then the sky's the limit. The spiritus is semi-rigid... the rest you mentioned are not Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By rb889: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By rb889: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By rb889: Any recommendations for a skeletonized cummerbund for a LBT 6094? Ones I’ve found thus far are the MOS, Spiritus, and Beez, leaning towards the MOS. Do you want structural/rigid? Not particularly. Don’t plan on stacking much of anything on the cummerbund, just trying to get something more breathable. I'd ditch skeletal and go elastic. Or a hybrid of sorts if you need some molle. It'll be more form fitting and move with you better. Tried full elastic ones before, wasn’t a huge fan, but that was with single curve plates that weren’t a great fit. Was also thinking long term durability, it’s easy/cheap enough to replace shock cord, full elastic means having to replace the entire thing once it wears out, plus it’s more liable to get shredded in the bush. Though seeing how few options still use threaded shock cord, I was considering a FCPC for the built in QD shoulder strap if I couldn’t find what I wanted for the 6094. At that point then the sky's the limit. The spiritus is semi-rigid... the rest you mentioned are not Appreciate the info. Started looking into the FCPC a bit more, apparently it’s not sized for folks under 5’10” In looking for alternatives, I ruled out the K19 for the bulk over the shoulder pocket, then ran across the WTF PC24. Anyone got experience with that? While I’m not real big on structured cummerbunds, this looks like it’d breath pretty well with some ice vents thrown in. Kinda looks like a “Crye AVS harness we have at home.” |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 1:23:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: Appreciate the info. Started looking into the FCPC a bit more, apparently it’s not sized for folks under 5’10” In looking for alternatives, I ruled out the K19 for the bulk over the shoulder pocket, then ran across the WTF PC24. Anyone got experience with that? While I’m not real big on structured cummerbunds, this looks like it’d breath pretty well with some ice vents thrown in. Kinda looks like a “Crye AVS harness we have at home.” Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By rb889: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By rb889: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By rb889: Any recommendations for a skeletonized cummerbund for a LBT 6094? Ones I’ve found thus far are the MOS, Spiritus, and Beez, leaning towards the MOS. Do you want structural/rigid? Not particularly. Don’t plan on stacking much of anything on the cummerbund, just trying to get something more breathable. I'd ditch skeletal and go elastic. Or a hybrid of sorts if you need some molle. It'll be more form fitting and move with you better. Tried full elastic ones before, wasn’t a huge fan, but that was with single curve plates that weren’t a great fit. Was also thinking long term durability, it’s easy/cheap enough to replace shock cord, full elastic means having to replace the entire thing once it wears out, plus it’s more liable to get shredded in the bush. Though seeing how few options still use threaded shock cord, I was considering a FCPC for the built in QD shoulder strap if I couldn’t find what I wanted for the 6094. At that point then the sky's the limit. The spiritus is semi-rigid... the rest you mentioned are not Appreciate the info. Started looking into the FCPC a bit more, apparently it’s not sized for folks under 5’10” In looking for alternatives, I ruled out the K19 for the bulk over the shoulder pocket, then ran across the WTF PC24. Anyone got experience with that? While I’m not real big on structured cummerbunds, this looks like it’d breath pretty well with some ice vents thrown in. Kinda looks like a “Crye AVS harness we have at home.” They make good stuff. Honestly if you don't want a lot of rigidity something like an lv119 or jpc with the native cummerbunds will be more than plenty I believe. The qore carrier may fit the bill as well. |
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Posted: 5/10/2024 4:54:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: They make good stuff. Honestly if you don't want a lot of rigidity something like an lv119 or jpc with the native cummerbunds will be more than plenty I believe. The qore carrier may fit the bill as well. Yeah, JPC’s pretty high on the list, I’m just aiming for three features if I’m outright replacing the 6094. Offhand-side QD shoulder strap/cummerbund, better breathability, and equivalent or better shoulder pocket bulk. I’d like something that direct mounts a small pack, as well, though that’s only a minor annoyance if it’s got a molle backside. As for structured cummerbunds, since I don’t usually run side plates and kitchen sinks on my flanks, I don’t see the need to spend more or go out of my way for something that’s generally less comfortable, that’s all. The PC24 fits the bill, it’s just a bit pricey, so I figured I’d ask around for opinions before shelling out ~$500 on a full rig and pack. Just found the T3 Tomahawk, too, never heard of them before. Pretty good minimalist PC, very simple shoulder strap adjustment with QD, kinda wish I’d seen this before getting an AC1. |
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Posted: 5/17/2024 4:35:26 PM EDT
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7 mile run in my carrier today. It's been months since I've run with it and can definitely feel it now at work.
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Posted: 5/17/2024 9:28:59 PM EDT
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Placeholder for k zero pics
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Posted: 5/18/2024 3:31:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: Yeah, JPC’s pretty high on the list, I’m just aiming for three features if I’m outright replacing the 6094. Offhand-side QD shoulder strap/cummerbund, better breathability, and equivalent or better shoulder pocket bulk. I’d like something that direct mounts a small pack, as well, though that’s only a minor annoyance if it’s got a molle backside. As for structured cummerbunds, since I don’t usually run side plates and kitchen sinks on my flanks, I don’t see the need to spend more or go out of my way for something that’s generally less comfortable, that’s all. The PC24 fits the bill, it’s just a bit pricey, so I figured I’d ask around for opinions before shelling out ~$500 on a full rig and pack. Just found the T3 Tomahawk, too, never heard of them before. Pretty good minimalist PC, very simple shoulder strap adjustment with QD, kinda wish I’d seen this before getting an AC1. Another solid minimalist option is perroz. He has lots of cool rare patterns too |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 6:17:11 AM EDT
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Made some admin pouches for me, sons and grandsons
 Attached File Attached FileAlso made 4 single mag carriers MALICE clips on back of all  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 10:22:59 AM EDT
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Anybody still rocking an old non laser cut esstac ass? I picked up a mepc with a slim structured cumberbund for a friend and it's nice , only lacking thing is the shoulder padding but that seems to be a known issue.
Although everything I think about trying something else I realize I don't really need to carry more on my ass and stick with it. I might try out some expander wings eventually to get a another mag or 2 behind the cumberbund. |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 12:41:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sparky-kb]
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What should I be looking at for a light weight "slick" PC that is swift clip compatible?
The Crye Airlite looks, well, light but I question the durability with all the mesh and elastic. T-Rex Arms AC-1 looks pretty good, basically what I'm looking for. Same with the Velocity Systems LEPC, Perroz Designs and the Ferro Concepts Slickster. I want something that can be run slick or with a placard. Minimal bulk. Lightweight but not to the point it'll tear up easily. Anything else I should be looking at? Are any of the above listed better than the others? |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 1:23:32 PM EDT
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Slickster
Lv119 Jpc Spc Trex Paired with am elastic cummerbund Modern Laser cut systems are the same "bulk" as a completely slick carrier now so any simple laser cut system will work just fine. The main bulk is in pads and structure now. |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 1:57:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spyderboy03]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By polishkebasa: Anybody still rocking an old non laser cut esstac ass? I picked up a mepc with a slim structured cumberbund for a friend and it's nice , only lacking thing is the shoulder padding but that seems to be a known issue. Although everything I think about trying something else I realize I don't really need to carry more on my ass and stick with it. I might try out some expander wings eventually to get a another mag or 2 behind the cumberbund.   |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 8:31:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sparky-kb: What should I be looking at for a light weight "slick" PC that is swift clip compatible? The Crye Airlite looks, well, light but I question the durability with all the mesh and elastic. T-Rex Arms AC-1 looks pretty good, basically what I'm looking for. Same with the Velocity Systems LEPC, Perroz Designs and the Ferro Concepts Slickster. I want something that can be run slick or with a placard. Minimal bulk. Lightweight but not to the point it'll tear up easily. Anything else I should be looking at? Are any of the above listed better than the others? T3 Tomahawk LC. Better deal than the AC1, and it’s got QD shoulder straps as an option. It’s a hybrid with features from the JPC, FCPC, and Scarab, designed by folks with experience living in body armor. Best bet for a minimalist carrier. AC1 doesn’t fit anywhere near as well as an old school 6094, the straps are straight vertical, the padded shoulder sleeves are free-floating, and for the life of me I cannot get the rear plate to ride high enough. It’s great as an entry level PC or a loaner, but the price is mid-tier, it’s very barebones for the money, and it doesn’t play well with all body types. If you’re well built or stocky, it may not fit you very well. YMMV. Spiritus is always recommended, as is the JPC, Slickster and MEPC. Next option is a more overt one that I’m looking into, WTFidea PC24. Not super slick, but not super bulky, it’s basically “Crye AVS harness we have at home.” Very well designed, takes a lot of the good ideas and useful features of other PC’s and melds them into one product with some QoL improvements. Expensive up front, but decently priced if it’s got everything you want, with a half-decent number of options for direct-mounted packs and hydration carriers. This is probably the best option if you want a structured cummerbund. They also have some more slick carriers, I think PC13 and PC06, IIRC. |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 11:36:38 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rb889: If you’re well built or stocky, it may not fit you very well. YMMV. As one point of reference, I have a 46" chest, deep and broad. The AC1 is by far my favorite carrier. Fits super well. My brother's a hair slighter, and he's switched the AC1. Great carrier if minimalist is what one's looking for. If you're going to load it down, I'd look elsewhere. I only run a GP pouch and TQ holder on mine. |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 1:07:48 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sparky-kb: What should I be looking at for a light weight "slick" PC that is swift clip compatible? The Crye Airlite looks, well, light but I question the durability with all the mesh and elastic. T-Rex Arms AC-1 looks pretty good, basically what I'm looking for. Same with the Velocity Systems LEPC, Perroz Designs and the Ferro Concepts Slickster. I want something that can be run slick or with a placard. Minimal bulk. Lightweight but not to the point it'll tear up easily. Anything else I should be looking at? Are any of the above listed better than the others? |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 2:22:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sparky-kb]
[#36]
Thanks for all the replies.
I think I want the LV119. Honestly, the AC1 does everything I need for cheaper but I'd rather give Holroyd the money since we were in the same battalion back in the day (although I didn't know him). Now to decide between medium and large... The Army always issued me large SAPIs/ESAPIs. I went medium last time I bought a personal vest and always felt like they were too small. If I recall my measurements they are 11 inches nip to nip and 13.5-14 from suprasternal notch to 4 inches above belly button. Im 6'4" and 205 lbs. Large sounds about right doesn't it? Might even be pushing XL plates by the numbers but I'm not going that big. |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 3:55:54 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sparky-kb: Thanks for all the replies. I think I want the LV119. Honestly, the AC1 does everything I need for cheaper but I'd rather give Holroyd the money since we were in the same battalion back in the day (although I didn't know him). Now to decide between medium and large... The Army always issued me large SAPIs/ESAPIs. I went medium last time I bought a personal vest and always felt like they were too small. If I recall my measurements they are 11 inches nip to nip and 13.5-14 from suprasternal notch to 4 inches above belly button. Im 6'4" and 205 lbs. Large sounds about right doesn't it? Might even be pushing XL plates by the numbers but I'm not going that big. Large sounds right |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 6:32:56 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sparky-kb: Thanks for all the replies. I think I want the LV119. Honestly, the AC1 does everything I need for cheaper but I'd rather give Holroyd the money since we were in the same battalion back in the day (although I didn't know him). Now to decide between medium and large... The Army always issued me large SAPIs/ESAPIs. I went medium last time I bought a personal vest and always felt like they were too small. If I recall my measurements they are 11 inches nip to nip and 13.5-14 from suprasternal notch to 4 inches above belly button. Im 6'4" and 205 lbs. Large sounds about right doesn't it? Might even be pushing XL plates by the numbers but I'm not going that big. Large. |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 10:04:30 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: Large. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: Large. Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Large sounds right Thanks. Got the LV119 ordered. Now to decide on plates. M210's are looking like the front runners. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 7:29:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: sparky-kb]
[#40]
Will 9mm Glock mags fit in the little front pockets of a SLEDs placard or are they too thick?
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Posted: 5/23/2024 12:40:36 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sparky-kb: Will 9mm Glock mags fit in the little front pockets of a SLEDs placard or are they too thick? Only single stack mags will fit |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 12:57:06 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: Only single stack mags will fit Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By sparky-kb: Will 9mm Glock mags fit in the little front pockets of a SLEDs placard or are they too thick? Only single stack mags will fit Bummer, thanks. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 9:20:08 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spyderboy03: I've got one that I'm giving to my dad soon to upgrade his carrier. It was my wife's so it never really saw use. She's getting my 2 year old Daeodon and I just picked up a UNI. I definitely prefer the wider cummerbund over the belt style with cobra buckle of the light/ass. https://i.imgur.com/c40ySKn.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KvidNjZ.jpeg very nice |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 6:34:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: There are plenty of th8ngs we will need that aren't beans bullets and bandaids. Maps, reference cards, pens paper and the like. You just have to lay out what you need and then figure out where it goes Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By shooter_gregg: Under what conditions is an admin pouch a benefit? I am mainly setting up for when shit goes sideways, but also want to run some classes. I have a JPC 2.0 with the Esstac Deodon 3 mag placard and the zip on back panel that is covered in molle and has a hydration pouch in it. I also have a radio setup for vhf ham bands/MURS. My son in law is also wanting to set up his own rig. I'm an old squid who doesn't miss the ocean. I live outside of a small town. I thought we were pretty secure being six miles off the highway, behind other ranches. Then a few months ago we had a situation with a fugitive running around in our area. He was armed, but apparently a city boy who got lost trying to disappear into the brush and ended up caught that night. I started building a better setup and a PC was something I wanted. Turns out crime moved in to small town Texas while I was away fighting communism. Meth heads, biker drug runners, theft, B&E, etc. I don't want to get overloaded with excess gear. There are plenty of th8ngs we will need that aren't beans bullets and bandaids. Maps, reference cards, pens paper and the like. You just have to lay out what you need and then figure out where it goes |
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Posted: 5/28/2024 7:28:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 96Ag: Is this one of those cases where a fanny pack would work? Less stuff on the carrier and you can keep the admin stuff and skittles with you when you're not wearing the carrier? I keep an assortment in various pockets to spread it all out. Just depends on the job at hand. |
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Posted: 5/29/2024 6:45:42 PM EDT
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Question, who makes the best carrier for 11x14 plates? I have 10x12 shooters cut and Ferro Slicksters and the plates stop well inside my nipples probably have an inch or two on either side. 6'1" 235 with a 48" chest.
And how much do the wider plates affect movement? The 10x12 aren't really an impediment, which I like, but how much is the peripheral coverage lost in a real world context? |
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Posted: 5/29/2024 6:46:15 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: I keep an assortment in various pockets to spread it all out. Just depends on the job at hand. |
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Posted: 5/30/2024 9:55:24 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By polishkebasa: Anybody still rocking an old non laser cut esstac ass? I picked up a mepc with a slim structured cumberbund for a friend and it's nice , only lacking thing is the shoulder padding but that seems to be a known issue. Although everything I think about trying something else I realize I don't really need to carry more on my ass and stick with it. I might try out some expander wings eventually to get a another mag or 2 behind the cumberbund. @polishkebasa  Annnnnnd since Agilite went and done it I had to have it! K-Zero M81 Woodland................... 
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Posted: 5/30/2024 10:18:25 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 96Ag: Question, who makes the best carrier for 11x14 plates? I have 10x12 shooters cut and Ferro Slicksters and the plates stop well inside my nipples probably have an inch or two on either side. 6'1" 235 with a 48" chest. And how much do the wider plates affect movement? The 10x12 aren't really an impediment, which I like, but how much is the peripheral coverage lost in a real world context? I use L sapis and wish they were mediums or 10x12s. |
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Posted: 5/31/2024 11:22:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: sparky-kb]
[#50]
I just ordered a set of Hesco M210's for my LV119 and I'm kinda second guessing myself.
If those things were .308 rated they'd be just about the ideal plate for my budget. I guess the trade off I made was .61 inch thickness for low visibility urban use vs .308 protection. I'm a lot less worried about getting shot by hunters and farmers in my area (aka my neighbors) and figure if I was about to get "sniped" by a .308 hunting rifle they'd probably shoot me in the face anyway lol. I know some people still rock 308 battle rifles but not nearly as many as are using ARs and AKs. I don't know. I wanted green tip and 855A1 protection, thin, not ultra heavy, and affordable. Now I'm not so sure. Kinda rethinking whether losing .308 protection for CONUS use was a worthwhile trade off. Just kinda rambling here trying to justify my choice.
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