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Sailboat Sailboat Joined Jun 2008 Posts 7797 EE 100% (28) MP, USA	Posted: 5/12/2024 11:29:08 AM EDT I am trying to find the call sign of a guy who kinda mentored me at an airport in PA in the early 2000. I'm hoping to be able to take over his call sign (if that's possible.). Regardless I would like to know what his call was. Is there anyone who can help me? I would prefer to do it over private message.
	I wonder if some of these edge lords ever give thought to what judgement will be passed on them when their day comes? Probably won't be, "Well that guy was an asshole but he sure could vote so that excuses everything". - Bluedsteel

ManiacRat Joined May 2005 Posts 11038 EE 100% (8) TX, USA	Posted: 5/12/2024 11:42:56 AM EDT [#1] Send his name, you can search on QRZ and FCC website by name.

K9-Bob Member Joined Jul 2004 Posts 11564 EE 100% (45) USA	Posted: 5/12/2024 12:06:44 PM EDT [#2] FCC ULS In the search box select search by name. You may be able to find it there.
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illini52 Joined Aug 2006 Posts 793 EE 100% (3) USA	Posted: 5/12/2024 12:53:33 PM EDT [Last Edit: illini52] [#3] If you know the name you can search the old callbooks too. For those with reused callsigns, you can go through there too and see who had your old call. https://archive.org/details/callbook

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Posted: 5/12/2024 1:12:49 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By illini52:
If you know the name you can search the old callbooks too. For those with reused callsigns, you can go through there too and see who had your old call.
https://archive.org/details/callbook

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I talked to the guy who had mine back in the 70s and 80s. We exchanged cards too.

I may be changing again soon. Waiting on a 2x1 to become available that I want. Then no more changing for me.

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Posted: 5/12/2024 9:58:00 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By ManiacRat:
I talked to the guy who had mine back in the 70s and 80s. We exchanged cards too.

I may be changing again soon. Waiting on a 2x1 to become available that I want. Then no more changing for me.

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I am not having any luck.
Here is his obituary:

Frank the Tank

Can someone give me a hand?

https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=937457
I think that's him. I would I go about getting his call? Do I need to get my extra first or can I have a four digit?

I wonder if some of these edge lords ever give thought to what judgement will be passed on them when their day comes? Probably won't be, "Well that guy was an asshole but he sure could vote so that excuses everything". - Bluedsteel

GlockfanUT Plenty of drag, low speed... Joined Dec 2006 Posts 3216 EE 100% (93) UT, USA	Posted: 5/12/2024 10:01:35 PM EDT [#6] If this guy has been a SK for nine years, his callsign has probably been issued to another ham.
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Sailboat Sailboat Joined Jun 2008 Posts 7799 EE 100% (28) MP, USA	Posted: 5/12/2024 10:07:28 PM EDT [#7] Quote History Originally Posted By GlockfanUT: If this guy has been a SK for nine years, his callsign has probably been issued to another ham. View Quote WX8A I don't think it has been yet? Just says expired.
	I wonder if some of these edge lords ever give thought to what judgement will be passed on them when their day comes? Probably won't be, "Well that guy was an asshole but he sure could vote so that excuses everything". - Bluedsteel

USMC2671 Joined Nov 2008 Posts 5881 EE 100% (2) VA, USA	Posted: 5/12/2024 10:08:25 PM EDT [#8] Highly unlikely that this isn't him. https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=937457

Sailboat Sailboat Joined Jun 2008 Posts 7800 EE 100% (28) MP, USA	Posted: 5/12/2024 10:09:53 PM EDT [#9] Quote History Originally Posted By USMC2671: Highly unlikely that this isn't him. https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=937457 View Quote That's him! Great guy.
	I wonder if some of these edge lords ever give thought to what judgement will be passed on them when their day comes? Probably won't be, "Well that guy was an asshole but he sure could vote so that excuses everything". - Bluedsteel

ManiacRat Member Joined May 2005 Posts 11045 EE 100% (8) TX, USA	Posted: 5/12/2024 10:12:07 PM EDT [Last Edit: ManiacRat] [#10] Its an active callsign right now, someone already got it. Next expiration is 2032. If it's a 1x2 or 2x1, they are snatched up almost as soon as they become available.

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Posted: 5/12/2024 10:56:10 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By ManiacRat:
Its an active callsign right now, someone already got it. Next expiration is 2032.

If it's a 1x2 or 2x1, they are snatched up almost as soon as they become available.

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Can you translate that into idiot engineer for me? The call is listed above. I don't see an active user for that call in the FCC website but that website is also the worst website ever made since 2002.

I wonder if some of these edge lords ever give thought to what judgement will be passed on them when their day comes? Probably won't be, "Well that guy was an asshole but he sure could vote so that excuses everything". - Bluedsteel

Sailboat Sailboat Joined Jun 2008 Posts 7802 EE 100% (28) MP, USA	Posted: 5/12/2024 10:57:03 PM EDT [#12] Quote History Originally Posted By ManiacRat: Its an active callsign right now, someone already got it. Next expiration is 2032. If it's a 1x2 or 2x1, they are snatched up almost as soon as they become available. View Quote What does 1x2 2x1 mean? I see AARL and the FCC have sites explaining how to get them but what's 1x2 2x1?
	I wonder if some of these edge lords ever give thought to what judgement will be passed on them when their day comes? Probably won't be, "Well that guy was an asshole but he sure could vote so that excuses everything". - Bluedsteel

Mach

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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:06:39 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Sailboat:
What does 1x2 2x1 mean? I see AARL and the FCC have sites explaining how to get them but what's 1x2 2x1?

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Originally Posted By Sailboat:

Originally Posted By ManiacRat:
Its an active callsign right now, someone already got it. Next expiration is 2032.

If it's a 1x2 or 2x1, they are snatched up almost as soon as they become available.

What does 1x2 2x1 mean? I see AARL and the FCC have sites explaining how to get them but what's 1x2 2x1?

number if letters before and after the number, X is the number spot

so a 1x2 example would be K1LL or N0NE or W4IT

a 2x1 would be WA1T or T1TS or WX8A

Mach
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K9-Bob

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Posted: 5/12/2024 11:07:43 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Sailboat:
What does 1x2 2x1 mean? I see AARL and the FCC have sites explaining how to get them but what's 1x2 2x1?

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Originally Posted By Sailboat:

Originally Posted By ManiacRat:
Its an active callsign right now, someone already got it. Next expiration is 2032.

If it's a 1x2 or 2x1, they are snatched up almost as soon as they become available.

What does 1x2 2x1 mean? I see AARL and the FCC have sites explaining how to get them but what's 1x2 2x1?

Both types of call require an Extra Class license.

“Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid.” Ronald Reagan

D_Man Well Lubricated Joined May 2008 Posts 10571 EE 100% (17) OH, USA	Posted: 5/13/2024 1:57:18 AM EDT [#15] Quote History Originally Posted By Sailboat: Can you translate that into idiot engineer for me? The call is listed above. I don't see an active user for that call in the FCC website but that website is also the worst website ever made since 2002. View Quote WX8A is currently held my a ham in Ohio. https://www.qrz.com/db/WX8A

Homesteader375 Member Joined Feb 2021 Posts 3558 EE 0% (0) ME, USA	Posted: 5/13/2024 7:01:14 AM EDT [#16] Attached File This is the guy currently holding the call. ULS will give up the info.

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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:52:44 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Sailboat:
Can you translate that into idiot engineer for me? The call is listed above. I don't see an active user for that call in the FCC website but that website is also the worst website ever made since 2002.

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They searched by name, not call. You have to search by call.

If you want that call, good luck. 1x2 and 2x1 are very desirable by us extra nerds who came along AFTER they ran out. Being the shorter combination there is obviously significantly less available calls than the 1x3 or 2x3 calls. So people usually are waiting at the moment one expires and the 2 years elapses to put in for the call. I'll be doing that towards the end of the year with a call I want. About the only way to jump the line is if it was your call originally or it was a family members call.

Sailboat Sailboat Joined Jun 2008 Posts 7803 EE 100% (28) MP, USA	Posted: 5/13/2024 9:49:55 AM EDT [#18] Quote History Originally Posted By Homesteader375: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/539786/Screenshot_20240513-065952_Chrome_jpg-3213117.JPG This is the guy currently holding the call. ULS will give up the info. View Quote Shucks. Can you pay people for their calls?
	I wonder if some of these edge lords ever give thought to what judgement will be passed on them when their day comes? Probably won't be, "Well that guy was an asshole but he sure could vote so that excuses everything". - Bluedsteel

Sailboat Sailboat Joined Jun 2008 Posts 7804 EE 100% (28) MP, USA	Posted: 5/13/2024 9:50:45 AM EDT [#19] Quote History Originally Posted By Mach: number if letters before and after the number, X is the number spot so a 1x2 example would be K1LL or N0NE or W4IT a 2x1 would be WA1T or T1TS or WX8A View Quote I am guessing T1TS K1LL N0NE W4IT are all takem :-D
	I wonder if some of these edge lords ever give thought to what judgement will be passed on them when their day comes? Probably won't be, "Well that guy was an asshole but he sure could vote so that excuses everything". - Bluedsteel

Sailboat Sailboat Joined Jun 2008 Posts 7805 EE 100% (28) MP, USA	Posted: 5/13/2024 10:23:26 AM EDT [#20] Quote History Originally Posted By K9-Bob: Both types of call require an Extra Class license. View Quote I'm working on it, my wife had a kid so I've been a little busy. I know I know, it's no excuse.
	I wonder if some of these edge lords ever give thought to what judgement will be passed on them when their day comes? Probably won't be, "Well that guy was an asshole but he sure could vote so that excuses everything". - Bluedsteel

Dopple Unconvicted Felon (CoC4) Joined Jan 2013 Posts 98382 EE 0% (0) NY, USA	Posted: 5/13/2024 10:54:22 AM EDT [#21] Quote History Originally Posted By Sailboat: I am guessing T1TS K1LL N0NE W4IT are all takem :-D View Quote I know W2TF is taken. Buddy of mine got that one.
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Mach

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Posted: 5/13/2024 1:38:15 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Sailboat:
I am guessing T1TS K1LL N0NE W4IT are all takem :-D

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Originally Posted By Sailboat:

Originally Posted By Mach:

number if letters before and after the number, X is the number spot

so a 1x2 example would be K1LL or N0NE or W4IT

a 2x1 would be WA1T or T1TS or WX8A

I am guessing T1TS K1LL N0NE W4IT are all takem :-D

well I did accidentally put T1TS in the 2x1 section, so I guess it is complicated

Mach
Nobody is coming to save us.

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K9-Bob Member Joined Jul 2004 Posts 11568 EE 100% (45) USA	Posted: 5/13/2024 2:58:39 PM EDT [Last Edit: K9-Bob] [#23] https://www.radioqth.net/vanity/available https://www.ae7q.com/query/ Silent Key Callsign Harvesting The web sites above should be able to answer all of the OP's questions about call signs.
	“Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid.” Ronald Reagan

Sailboat Sailboat Joined Jun 2008 Posts 7806 EE 100% (28) MP, USA	Posted: 5/13/2024 7:02:59 PM EDT [#24] Quote History Originally Posted By K9-Bob: https://www.radioqth.net/vanity/available https://www.ae7q.com/query/ Silent Key Callsign Harvesting The web sites above should be able to answer all of the OP's questions about call signs. View Quote Thanks. I didn't really want to read. I was hoping you would do all the work for me :-D
	I wonder if some of these edge lords ever give thought to what judgement will be passed on them when their day comes? Probably won't be, "Well that guy was an asshole but he sure could vote so that excuses everything". - Bluedsteel

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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:10:08 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Sailboat:
That's him!

Great guy.

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Originally Posted By Sailboat:

Originally Posted By USMC2671:
Highly unlikely that this isn't him.

https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=937457

That's him!

Great guy.

You could apply for his previous call sign, N8KSE, as shown on his ULS record. It's currently not assigned and you don't need to be an Extra for a 1x3.

Even more incredible, when I searched on Frank's old call this popped up:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/373811832637

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Posted: 5/13/2024 10:08:21 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By aa777888-2:

You could apply for his previous call sign, N8KSE, as shown on his ULS record. It's currently not assigned and you don't need to be an Extra for a 1x3.

Even more incredible, when I searched on Frank's old call this popped up:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/373811832637

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Originally Posted By aa777888-2:

Originally Posted By Sailboat:

Originally Posted By USMC2671:
Highly unlikely that this isn't him.

https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=937457

That's him!

Great guy.

You could apply for his previous call sign, N8KSE, as shown on his ULS record. It's currently not assigned and you don't need to be an Extra for a 1x3.

Even more incredible, when I searched on Frank's old call this popped up:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/373811832637

Purchased his card, it will be a great way to remember him! I'll probably frame it.
Thanks

Damn, the guy he talked to is also dead link That card is before I was born!

I wonder if some of these edge lords ever give thought to what judgement will be passed on them when their day comes? Probably won't be, "Well that guy was an asshole but he sure could vote so that excuses everything". - Bluedsteel

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