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Posted: 5/18/2024 6:52:01 PM EDT
for the first time in a long time, manpower (skilled in any sense) is the most important commodity a country has. Major war will be avoided at all cost to try and keep the gears of the world turning. It'll be hard enough even in (relative) peace time. lots of tough talk between countries, but no bite
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Posted: 5/18/2024 6:53:02 PM EDT
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*laughs in China and India*
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Posted: 5/18/2024 6:55:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Keekleberrys]
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Thats why they are mass importing people.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 6:57:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wakeboarder: *laughs in China and India* China doesn't have any women to reproduce and is in a population crisis. India is the only major country not to figure out monotheism or basic sanitation. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:06:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Andrewsky]
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 Manpower's much less important nowadays. Every war is an engineer's war. Who has the software and hardware? Haven't you been paying attention to modern war? Drones are a big deal. Factory capacity is a big deal. Also, you can't predict when war's going to break out. In the summer of 1914, no one thought WW1 was going to happen or at least no one thought it would be as bad as it was. ETA: Can you feed that army? |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:08:21 PM EDT
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It’s not the people actually doing work that are the problem. It’s all the people that are not.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:10:32 PM EDT
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Russia had low fertility rates and an emigration problem before they decided to cause mass emigration and get a bunch of their young men killed.
This argument is a lot like "major trading partners will never fight a war" from just over 100 years ago. Wrong |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:55:37 PM EDT
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Self-repairing robots and weak-AI will be the solution to the OP's stated issue. Eventually.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:02:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FMJshooter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Keekleberrys: Thats why they are mass importing people. Si Don't know about avoiding war though. Humans can't do that for some reason. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:04:25 PM EDT
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:14:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: China doesn't have any women to reproduce and is in a population crisis. India is the only major country not to figure out monotheism or basic sanitation. what's the ration in middle eastern countries? Nothing says "go fight for your country" like "you can have all the white women" |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:25:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fulminate: what's the ration in middle eastern countries? Nothing says "go fight for your country" like "you can have all the white women" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fulminate: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: China doesn't have any women to reproduce and is in a population crisis. India is the only major country not to figure out monotheism or basic sanitation. what's the ration in middle eastern countries? Nothing says "go fight for your country" like "you can have all the white women" Well I suppose the just and proper answer would be two fold: First, if they expect to do that by consent, then that means western white males have failed. Second, if they expect to do it by force, then that means western white males need to shoot until slide lock. I am of the opinion both are true. I think there's failures in western male leadership, and I also believe there's a need to shoot until slide lock when crimes against women occur. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:43:01 PM EDT
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it was the best of times... it was the worst of times
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:50:29 PM EDT
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We got dragged into a two decade occupation of a country most Americans had never heard of by a handful of fanatics with carpet knives.
"Let us recollect that peace or war will not always be left to our option; that however moderate or unambitious we may be, we cannot count upon the moderation, or hope to extinguish the ambition of others. Who could have imagined at the conclusion of the last war that France and Britain, wearied and exhausted as they both were, would so soon have looked with so hostile an aspect upon each other? To judge from the history of mankind, we shall be compelled to conclude that the fiery and destructive passions of war reign in the human breast with much more powerful sway than the mild and beneficent sentiments of peace; and that to model our political systems upon speculations of lasting tranquillity, is to calculate on the weaker springs of the human character." |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:51:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: China doesn't have any women to reproduce and is in a population crisis. India is the only major country not to figure out monotheism or basic sanitation. Didn't keep either of them from going to the moon. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:55:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MMcCall: Didn't keep either of them from going to the moon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MMcCall: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: China doesn't have any women to reproduce and is in a population crisis. India is the only major country not to figure out monotheism or basic sanitation. Didn't keep either of them from going to the moon. Please show me where either risked the lives of men to achieve greatness. Not recklessly, but in confidence. They have neither recklessness nor a view of humanity which cannot abide failure. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:58:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Andrewsky: Manpower's much less important nowadays. Every war is an engineer's war. Who has the software and hardware? Haven't you been paying attention to modern war? Drones are a big deal. Factory capacity is a big deal. Also, you can't predict when war's going to break out. In the summer of 1914, no one thought WW1 was going to happen or at least no one thought it would be as bad as it was. ETA: Can you feed that army? You understand the more people you have the more factory capacity you have? |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:03:40 PM EDT
[#17]
Interesting statement.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:19:33 PM EDT
[#18]
Which counties will be involved?
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:43:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:47:24 PM EDT
[#20]
Russia doesn't seem to subscribe to that thought.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:50:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tct1000]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: Which countries will be involved? any that matter |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:00:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:05:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GST:
no one can afford war anymore. and i'm not talking money |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:11:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: Please show me where either risked the lives of men to achieve greatness. Not recklessly, but in confidence. They have neither recklessness nor a view of humanity which cannot abide failure. A) Neither does the US anymore either, at least at the national government level, and B) that's irrelevant once the trail has been blazed. Quantity has a quality all its own. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:12:41 AM EDT
[#25]
Didn’t people say the economies of various countries had become too interdependent not long before the beginning of the First World War?
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:14:18 AM EDT
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I am of the opposite opinion. I think we’ll be fighting wars for the purpose of assimilating a nation’s people.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:19:50 AM EDT
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The Great Famine and Black Death and the resultant mass death didn't stop war during the Middle ages, only interrupted the progress. War will never cease to exist. The fracturing and elimination of weak nations and consolidation or assimilation of conquered peoples under a stronger nation state will happen, as it has happened in history.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:29:29 AM EDT
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More on South Korea (this one predicts slightly more great-grandchildren):
https://amgreatness.com/2023/03/01/the-population-crash/ South Korea’s current fertility per woman, for example, is a dismal 0.81, and those are extinction-level numbers. At that rate of reproduction, for every 1 million Koreans of childbearing age today, there will only be 66,000 great-grandchildren. South Korea is on track to disappear in less than a century. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 1:09:36 AM EDT
[#29]
tct1000:The demographic collapse of the 1st & 2nd world counties will prevent WWIII |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 9:26:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kraquine]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigairt: It’s not the people actually doing work that are the problem. It’s all the people that are not. True 4% unemployment in 1900 meant 3M out of work 4% unemployment in the U.S. today means 13.2M out of work and that's not including the elderly and <18. Cascading effects on the federal budget and infrastructure are beginning to be felt. Thing is there is always going to be a % unemployed. |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:04:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tct1000: any that matter |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:11:16 PM EDT
[#32]
"There will be wars, and rumors of wars..."
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USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:15:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ops: "There will be wars, and rumors of wars..." Of all those signs, earthquakes, wars, disease, famine….the wars are the most obvious and glaring. Since say, the First World War, there have been a lot of them, but of course the second was even worse. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:23:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Inneedofhelp: Didn’t people say the economies of various countries had become too interdependent not long before the beginning of the First World War? yes. to assume that economic inter-dependency prevents wars is to ignore most of human history. |
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