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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:14:21 PM EDT
How did that get started? Hats with the squished down sides. They look like gestappo. Well from my perspective being from Houston. Looks especially stupid when a woman cop is wearing one.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:15:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mjohn3006]
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For those wanting a picture:
 But seriously. 2001? How many people in the whole United States have been to the New England area to have a clue of what you are talking about? “Hey! What is up with this?” Post a picture. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:16:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mjohn3006: For those wanting a picture: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42361/IMG_1497-3206552.jpg 
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:16:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:17:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: phatmax]
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With zero research, what I recall from urban legend, it is post WW2 when USAAF pilots wore headseats over their caps it crushed them like that. German tank commanders also wore similar hats with headsets with the same result. ETA the PDs copied the look.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:17:55 PM EDT
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OP can’t even spell “Gestapo”
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:18:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Birddog1911]
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We flew into Boston a couple of weeks ago, and there was a pair of Staties. One of their hats was clown worthy.
ETA: worse than this:  |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:19:33 PM EDT
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Maybe they are recreating the Army Air Forces “crusher” look.
Good grief, the stuff you guys get triggered over, it’s like a bunch of liberals. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:20:00 PM EDT
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You mean the kind they wear in New Mexico?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:20:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By phatmax: With zero research, what I recall from urban legend, it is post WW2 when USAAF pilots wore headseats over their caps it crushed them like that. German tank commanders also wore similar hats with headsets with the same result. ETA the PDs copied the look. So why did NewEngland cops start doing that to their hats. When Southern cops didn’t. Neither did California cops. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:20:32 PM EDT
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For me, it’s the McChicken. The best fast food sandwich. I even ask for extra McChicken sauce packets and the staff is so friendly and more than willing to oblige.
One time I asked for McChicken sauce packets and they gave me three. I said, “Wow, three for free!” and the nice friendly McDonald’s worker laughed and said, “I’m going to call you 3-for-free!”. Now the staff greets me with “hey it’s 3-for-free!” and ALWAYS give me three packets. It’s such a fun and cool atmosphere at my local McDonald’s restaurant, I go there at least 3 times a week for lunch and a large iced coffee with milk instead of cream, 1-2 times for breakfast on the weekend, and maybe once for dinner when I’m in a rush but want a great meal that is affordable, fast, and can match my daily nutritional needs. I even dip my fries in McChicken sauce, it’s delicious! What a great restaurant. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:21:59 PM EDT
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We put a circular piece of spring steel inside our cop hats to keep them flat on top.
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NY, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:22:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner: So why did NewEngland cops start doing that to their hats. When Southern cops didn’t. Neither did California cops. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner: Originally Posted By phatmax: With zero research, what I recall from urban legend, it is post WW2 when USAAF pilots wore headseats over their caps it crushed them like that. German tank commanders also wore similar hats with headsets with the same result. ETA the PDs copied the look. So why did NewEngland cops start doing that to their hats. When Southern cops didn’t. Neither did California cops. It's almost like different parts of the country are... different? |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:23:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner: So why did NewEngland cops start doing that to their hats. When Southern cops didn’t. Neither did California cops. 1940s American regional cultural differences were much more rigid? Style choices made in the Northeast wouldn't influence much in the South or West. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:27:52 PM EDT
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 NJ State Trooper |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:31:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryJersey isn't new england? |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:35:07 PM EDT
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I won’t give the OP shit. It is a genuinely weird look so I’m curious, as well
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:35:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Creatyre: Jersey isn't new england?  Public school. 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:35:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Creatyre: Jersey isn't new england? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Creatyre: Jersey isn't new england? What do I know about East Coast geography? I’m a cracker. But I do know that Texas Highway Patrol has the sharpest uniform in the United States. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:36:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pr24guy: You mean the kind they wear in New Mexico? NMSP were always good to me for the ten years I lived there. They were very casual about having a loaded sidearm on the seat next to me when I was pulled over. NMSP Officer during traffic stop: “Is that your handgun?” Me: “Yes it is” NMSP Officer: “ok, just leave it on the seat during the stop”. I can only imagine how well that would go down in NJ… |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:40:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sirbordsalot311: I won’t give the OP shit. It is a genuinely weird look so I’m curious, as well I'm not going to give OP shit either, because it IS a weird look. That said, I have zero curiosity about it. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:41:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCTanker: NMSP were always good to me for the ten years I lived there. They were very casual about having a loaded sidearm on the seat next to me when I was pulled over. NMSP Officer during traffic stop: “Is that your handgun?” Me: “Yes it is” NMSP Officer: “ok, just leave it on the seat during the stop”. I can only imagine how well that would go down in NJ… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCTanker: Originally Posted By pr24guy: You mean the kind they wear in New Mexico? NMSP were always good to me for the ten years I lived there. They were very casual about having a loaded sidearm on the seat next to me when I was pulled over. NMSP Officer during traffic stop: “Is that your handgun?” Me: “Yes it is” NMSP Officer: “ok, just leave it on the seat during the stop”. I can only imagine how well that would go down in NJ… WTF does that have to do with hats? |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:43:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner: What do I know about East Coast geography? I’m a cracker. But I do know that Texas Highway Patrol has the sharpest uniform in the United States. Texas? The all tan with a blue tie? You think that looks good? |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:43:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bdy83]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Creatyre: Jersey isn't new england? It's not really the USA either Pretty sure Norman Schwartkopf Sr implemented NJs uniforms and admired the European uniforms |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:46:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner: What do I know about East Coast geography? I’m a cracker. But I do know that Texas Highway Patrol has the sharpest uniform in the United States. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner: Originally Posted By Creatyre: Jersey isn't new england? What do I know about East Coast geography? I’m a cracker. But I do know that Texas Highway Patrol has the sharpest uniform in the United States. They wear a hat designed in Philadelphia. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:48:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: It's not really the USA either Pretty sure Norman Schwartkopf Sr implemented NJs uniforms and admired the European uniforms Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: Originally Posted By Creatyre: Jersey isn't new england? It's not really the USA either Pretty sure Norman Schwartkopf Sr implemented NJs uniforms and admired the European uniforms Wrong, they were designed after the West Point Uniform. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:49:48 PM EDT
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I read somewhere that the NJSP uniform pre-dates what the Nazis wore.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:50:16 PM EDT
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State Bulls wear the Smokey Bear hat, pretty standard. A group of peeps formed a committee and studied drawings and such and determined that what you see is what you get, at least until the next committee meeting.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:50:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: silane]
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Really have to wonder who wore it better: NJSP or the SS?
MA State Police could get some respect from the population if they didn't keep earning public black eyes for betraying the public's trust all the time. Look up MA SP overtime scandal if you're bored. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:51:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capt-Planet: Texas? The all tan with a blue tie? You think that looks good? To be fair, their epaulettes are also electric blue and they top that shirt off with red patches. Frickin' colorblind guy must have come up with it. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:51:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FirelightGuy: I read somewhere that the NJSP uniform pre-dates what the Nazis wore. Yes, 1921 was the founding of the NJSP. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:53:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pr24guy: Wrong, they were designed after the West Point Uniform. @pr24guy thanks. It's been awhile since I read up on it |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:55:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner: What do I know about East Coast geography? I’m a cracker. But I do know that Texas Highway Patrol has the sharpest uniform in the United States. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner: Originally Posted By Creatyre: Jersey isn't new england? What do I know about East Coast geography? I’m a cracker. But I do know that Texas Highway Patrol has the sharpest uniform in the United States. I get it. I'm from Kansas. Everything from Eastern OH, VA, to the top of NC is New England to me. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:56:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: @pr24guy thanks. It's been awhile since I read up on it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: Originally Posted By pr24guy: Wrong, they were designed after the West Point Uniform. @pr24guy thanks. It's been awhile since I read up on it Everybody I work with are retired Troopers. I used to work with Gen. Schwarzkopf's nephew in NJ DOC. too. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:56:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCTanker: NMSP were always good to me for the ten years I lived there. They were very casual about having a loaded sidearm on the seat next to me when I was pulled over. NMSP Officer during traffic stop: “Is that your handgun?” Me: “Yes it is” NMSP Officer: “ok, just leave it on the seat during the stop”. I can only imagine how well that would go down in NJ… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCTanker: Originally Posted By pr24guy: You mean the kind they wear in New Mexico? NMSP were always good to me for the ten years I lived there. They were very casual about having a loaded sidearm on the seat next to me when I was pulled over. NMSP Officer during traffic stop: “Is that your handgun?” Me: “Yes it is” NMSP Officer: “ok, just leave it on the seat during the stop”. I can only imagine how well that would go down in NJ… What did they expect you to say? "No, it was here when I returned from getting my ol' lady's pads and chocolate at the piggly wiggly." Dafuq kind of question is that? |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:58:29 PM EDT
[#35]
I got nothing other than some Junior Brown.
 Junior Brown - Highway Patrol (1995)(Music City Tonight 720p) |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:58:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pr24guy: Everybody I work with are retired Troopers. I used to work with Gen. Schwarzkopf's nephew in NJ DOC. too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pr24guy: Originally Posted By bdy83: Originally Posted By pr24guy: Wrong, they were designed after the West Point Uniform. @pr24guy thanks. It's been awhile since I read up on it Everybody I work with are retired Troopers. I used to work with Gen. Schwarzkopf's nephew in NJ DOC. too. What the hell do you know about surfing, Major? You're from God damned New Jersey. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:01:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCTanker: NMSP were always good to me for the ten years I lived there. They were very casual about having a loaded sidearm on the seat next to me when I was pulled over. NMSP Officer during traffic stop: “Is that your handgun?” Me: “Yes it is” NMSP Officer: “ok, just leave it on the seat during the stop”. I can only imagine how well that would go down in NJ… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCTanker: Originally Posted By pr24guy: You mean the kind they wear in New Mexico? NMSP were always good to me for the ten years I lived there. They were very casual about having a loaded sidearm on the seat next to me when I was pulled over. NMSP Officer during traffic stop: “Is that your handgun?” Me: “Yes it is” NMSP Officer: “ok, just leave it on the seat during the stop”. I can only imagine how well that would go down in NJ… Same here. Are you armed? Yes. You don’t touch yours and I won’t touch mine. Yes Sir. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:06:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pr24guy: WTF does that have to do with hats? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pr24guy: Originally Posted By USMCTanker: Originally Posted By pr24guy: You mean the kind they wear in New Mexico? NMSP were always good to me for the ten years I lived there. They were very casual about having a loaded sidearm on the seat next to me when I was pulled over. NMSP Officer during traffic stop: “Is that your handgun?” Me: “Yes it is” NMSP Officer: “ok, just leave it on the seat during the stop”. I can only imagine how well that would go down in NJ… WTF does that have to do with hats? That they don’t act like the Gestapo? |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:09:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: What did they expect you to say? "No, it was here when I returned from getting my ol' lady's pads and chocolate at the piggly wiggly." Dafuq kind of question is that? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By USMCTanker: Originally Posted By pr24guy: You mean the kind they wear in New Mexico? NMSP were always good to me for the ten years I lived there. They were very casual about having a loaded sidearm on the seat next to me when I was pulled over. NMSP Officer during traffic stop: “Is that your handgun?” Me: “Yes it is” NMSP Officer: “ok, just leave it on the seat during the stop”. I can only imagine how well that would go down in NJ… What did they expect you to say? "No, it was here when I returned from getting my ol' lady's pads and chocolate at the piggly wiggly." Dafuq kind of question is that? Probing for an answer that would tip them off that I was a prohibited person maybe? I don’t know. I was never really worried about the latest in LE fashion. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:09:17 PM EDT
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When I was a kid in Georgia, a lot of cops wore those mesh Class A hats. I don't think I've seen those in ages. Bald Cops would be speckled in the Summer.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:09:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jjchumble]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: @pr24guy thanks. It's been awhile since I read up on it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bdy83: Originally Posted By pr24guy: Wrong, they were designed after the West Point Uniform. @pr24guy thanks. It's been awhile since I read up on it Colonel Schwarzkopf’s military background greatly influenced all areas of the newly formed organization. During training olive-drab denims, courtesy of the Army surplus store, served their purpose very well. As the end of training approached, the need for a distinctive uniform became a priority. Schwarzkopf outfitted the new troopers in what was standard from 1921-1924. That original uniform consisted of a Stetson hat, brown boots, olive britches, gray shirt, Jersey blue tie, navy wool blouse and Sam Browne belt and holster. The belt forced the wearer to “brace” like a West Pointer, which was exactly why it was chosen by Schwarzkopf. From https://www.nj.gov/njsp/about/history/1920s.shtml West Point uniforms in 1923 :  ETA - I was confused a bit initially, but it appears Schwartzkopf Sr was an Army Captain who had served in WWI and was a NJSP Colonel, the rank thing threw me off when reading up on this. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:13:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Public school. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By Creatyre: Jersey isn't new england? Public school. Idk what part you're commenting on, because NJ isn't new england. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:14:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Creatyre: Idk what part you're commenting on, because NJ isn't new england. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Creatyre: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By Creatyre: Jersey isn't new england? Public school. Idk what part you're commenting on, because NJ isn't new england. To the rest of us it is. |
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VT, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:15:13 PM EDT
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Mass State Police winter uniforms make them look like they're getting ready to invade Poland.
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:18:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCTanker: NMSP were always good to me for the ten years I lived there. They were very casual about having a loaded sidearm on the seat next to me when I was pulled over. NMSP Officer during traffic stop: “Is that your handgun?” Me: “Yes it is” NMSP Officer: “ok, just leave it on the seat during the stop”. I can only imagine how well that would go down in NJ… I never had a problem with any police officer or Border Patrol man the entire time I lived there. They were all pretty chill. Infact NM in general was a pretty chill place. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:20:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: To the rest of us it is. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By Creatyre: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By Creatyre: Jersey isn't new england? Public school. Idk what part you're commenting on, because NJ isn't new england. To the rest of us it is. And you'd be wrong. |
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:27:44 PM EDT
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Never noticed that before looks like someone sat on it .
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:29:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Creatyre: And you'd be wrong. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Creatyre: Originally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By Creatyre: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By Creatyre: Jersey isn't new england? Public school. Idk what part you're commenting on, because NJ isn't new england. To the rest of us it is. And you'd be wrong. True, but we don't care. It's all just a big weird blob that makes no sense. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:32:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: True, but we don't care. It's all just a big weird blob that makes no sense. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By Creatyre: Originally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By Creatyre: Originally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By Creatyre: Jersey isn't new england? Public school. Idk what part you're commenting on, because NJ isn't new england. To the rest of us it is. And you'd be wrong. True, but we don't care. It's all just a big weird blob that makes no sense. Ignorance is a strange thing to take pride in. But you do you. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 10:36:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Headless_T_Gunner: How did that get started? Hats with the squished down sides. They look like gestappo. Well from my perspective being from Houston. Looks especially stupid when a woman cop is wearing one. Why does that sound like a euphemism for something you would find on a german fetish site? |
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