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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:18:46 PM EDT
Need a decent scope for 300 blk out, what’s the hive recommend?
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:26:32 PM EDT
[#1]
Primary Arms whatever in their 300 BO specific ACSS reticle.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:32:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bravo_Six]
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Originally Posted By Fullautoguy: Need a decent scope for 300 blk out, what’s the hive recommend? I feel like a broken record, but ... what are you using it for? Assuming it is for your RAR and pigs, as in your other thread, I think any 3-9x40 from a reputable maker will suffice. I like the SWFA HD one since it is FFP with decent Jap glass and has a usable reticle. I would avoid any type of BDC since .300 blk trajectories are all over the place depending on the load. Or maybe get thermal. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:52:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ajek]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHumidity: Primary Arms whatever in their 300 BO specific ACSS reticle. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHumidity: Primary Arms whatever in their 300 BO specific ACSS reticle. ^ ETA: Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: I would avoid any type of BDC since .300 blk trajectories are all over the place depending on the load. I was thinking more for supersonic and subsonic with one reticle, because .300blk is generally going to have a lot of drop beyond ~200 yards. Then just figure out how best to zero your gun/ammo to fit the BDC. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:22:49 PM EDT
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Palmetto State Armory had a nice deal on Vortex Strike Eagles 1-8s, not sure if they still do or not
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:28:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mudholestomper]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ajek: ^ ETA: I was thinking more for supersonic and subsonic with one reticle, because .300blk is generally going to have a lot of drop beyond ~200 yards. Then just figure out how best to zero your gun/ammo to fit the BDC. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ajek: Originally Posted By BigHumidity: Primary Arms whatever in their 300 BO specific ACSS reticle. ^ ETA: Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: I would avoid any type of BDC since .300 blk trajectories are all over the place depending on the load. I was thinking more for supersonic and subsonic with one reticle, because .300blk is generally going to have a lot of drop beyond ~200 yards. Then just figure out how best to zero your gun/ammo to fit the BDC. Full power 308 out of a 18” barrel drops 4-4.5”. You bet your ass 300blk subs are dropping like rocks at 200. ETA: ~12-13” drop at 150 and 33-34” at 200 for a 220gr 300blk 300blk 220gr sub ballistics example 300blk subs are a bit above average at less than 100yards. My point is that any reticle will work because if you’re going to shoot subs with an optic, as long as it works at short ranges, you can use holdovers for longer distances. My suggestion would be PA 1-6 or 1-8 acss ffp. Or any reticle, really. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:29:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bully13: Palmetto State Armory had a nice deal on Vortex Strike Eagles 1-8s, not sure if they still do or not There’s one in the EE right now. Strike Eagle 1-8 |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:34:47 PM EDT
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Leupold 1.5-4× has been a great piece of glass on my 9in 300 BLK.
Lightweight, bright image, heavy reticle. Does great in the deer woods during prime time (aka low light) |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:45:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryFYI, the PSA one is the SFP version, not FFP. Still a great optic for 299 I think, but I think they're discounting em to make room for the newer FFP one. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:04:06 PM EDT
[#9]
I really like the Burris Fullfield 4.4-14 with MOA reticle for an all around scope. It has good glass and positive clicking turrets and etched reticle. Made in Philippines with lifetime warranty. The MOA reticle can be used with most any cartridge.
$156 shipped |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:17:21 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coyotesilencer: I really like the Burris Fullfield 4.4-14 with MOA reticle for an all around scope. It has good glass and positive clicking turrets and etched reticle. Made in Philippines with lifetime warranty. The MOA reticle can be used with most any cartridge. $156 shipped Not a terrible choice, but too much magnification for 300blk. Maybe for hunting, but for SD, it’s not going to be the best inside 50 yards. IMO. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:37:35 PM EDT
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I like the Steiner p4xi, I have that on 2 bolt action blkouts. On my minifix I have a Nightforce nx8 1-8 because of the size.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:40:43 PM EDT
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PA makes quality stuff and while likely out of the cheap budget, trijicon 300bo acog is great. (i have one in led)
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:48:17 PM EDT
[#13]
I use a PA 1-6 with my holds for supers then an offset red dot for subs.
PA has a picture of their ACSS with approximate holds for 300. I found it on google images |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 11:58:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHumidity: Primary Arms whatever in their 300 BO specific ACSS reticle. That's what I use on my Ruger American Ranch, and it works out great. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:33:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jt526: I like the Steiner p4xi, I have that on 2 bolt action blkouts. On my minifix I have a Nightforce nx8 1-8 because of the size. If I were gonna go LPvO it would be this, it’s pretty much perfect for a BO. I use expansion 3-2 on all of mine, usually with a magnifier. |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:41:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Full power 308 out of a 18” barrel drops 4-4.5”. You bet your ass 300blk subs are dropping like rocks at 200. ETA: ~12-13” drop at 150 and 33-34” at 200 for a 220gr 300blk 300blk 220gr sub ballistics example 300blk subs are a bit above average at less than 100yards. My point is that any reticle will work because if you’re going to shoot subs with an optic, as long as it works at short ranges, you can use holdovers for longer distances. My suggestion would be PA 1-6 or 1-8 acss ffp. Or any reticle, really. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Originally Posted By Ajek: Originally Posted By BigHumidity: Primary Arms whatever in their 300 BO specific ACSS reticle. ^ ETA: Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: I would avoid any type of BDC since .300 blk trajectories are all over the place depending on the load. I was thinking more for supersonic and subsonic with one reticle, because .300blk is generally going to have a lot of drop beyond ~200 yards. Then just figure out how best to zero your gun/ammo to fit the BDC. Full power 308 out of a 18” barrel drops 4-4.5”. You bet your ass 300blk subs are dropping like rocks at 200. ETA: ~12-13” drop at 150 and 33-34” at 200 for a 220gr 300blk 300blk 220gr sub ballistics example 300blk subs are a bit above average at less than 100yards. My point is that any reticle will work because if you’re going to shoot subs with an optic, as long as it works at short ranges, you can use holdovers for longer distances. My suggestion would be PA 1-6 or 1-8 acss ffp. Or any reticle, really. I think you misunderstood what I wrote, and maybe I wasn’t clear enough. Many people shoot both supersonic and subsonic with 300blk. Having a reticle with some kind of BDC enables having a usable zero for both simultaneously. No holdovers, guesswork, or multiple sighting systems required. |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 12:45:27 AM EDT
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There's a deal on a like new PA 1x6 with mount, throw lever and flip up caps in the used optic section of the EE
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Posted: 5/19/2024 1:25:43 AM EDT
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 1:48:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHumidity: Primary Arms whatever in their 300 BO specific ACSS reticle. This really is the way for 300blk scopes. Reticle has drops built in for both super and subsonic loads. Given that 300blk really isn’t really a long range cartridge anyway, I’ve actually found the BDC to be really reliable |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:13:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CuldesacWarlord: This really is the way for 300blk scopes. Reticle has drops built in for both super and subsonic loads. Given that 300blk really isn’t really a long range cartridge anyway, I’ve actually found the BDC to be really reliable Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CuldesacWarlord: Originally Posted By BigHumidity: Primary Arms whatever in their 300 BO specific ACSS reticle. This really is the way for 300blk scopes. Reticle has drops built in for both super and subsonic loads. Given that 300blk really isn’t really a long range cartridge anyway, I’ve actually found the BDC to be really reliable But not at the same time. If you zero for supers the hold over chart for subs isn’t accurate, and vice versa. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:25:04 AM EDT
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Pride Fowler offers one with a sub / super BDC
https://rapidreticle.com/product/rr-evolution-300-blk-2/ |
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USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 2:28:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KalmanPhilter: But not at the same time. If you zero for supers the hold over chart for subs isn’t accurate, and vice versa. Yeah I don’t understand the PA reticle as Sub and Super don’t have the same point of impact at 50yd so I don’t get how this reticle is practical unless you zero for one or the other. This was a big miss on their part IMO. |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 9:07:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KalmanPhilter: But not at the same time. If you zero for supers the hold over chart for subs isn’t accurate, and vice versa. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KalmanPhilter: Originally Posted By CuldesacWarlord: Originally Posted By BigHumidity: Primary Arms whatever in their 300 BO specific ACSS reticle. This really is the way for 300blk scopes. Reticle has drops built in for both super and subsonic loads. Given that 300blk really isn’t really a long range cartridge anyway, I’ve actually found the BDC to be really reliable But not at the same time. If you zero for supers the hold over chart for subs isn’t accurate, and vice versa. That was the point I was trying to make. You could make the reticle work for both, but it’s not going to be automatic. You’d have to determine the holds for the subs on your own. |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 9:14:20 AM EDT
[#24]
A PA prism w 300blk reticle.
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Posted: 5/19/2024 9:15:22 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryNice |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 9:30:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: shotar]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coyotesilencer: I really like the Burris Fullfield 4.4-14 with MOA reticle for an all around scope. It has good glass and positive clicking turrets and etched reticle. Made in Philippines with lifetime warranty. The MOA reticle can be used with most any cartridge. $156 shipped Came to post this. If they charged twice the price it would still be an excellent value. My only objection is the parallax won't focus below 50yds. I also have 2 of the 3-9x on deer rifles. They have been excellent. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 10:04:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easttnplinker: Yeah I don’t understand the PA reticle as Sub and Super don’t have the same point of impact at 50yd so I don’t get how this reticle is practical unless you zero for one or the other. This was a big miss on their part IMO. As far as I’m aware only Leupold & Trijicon had scope reticles with simultaneous super & sub hold-over ladders. In both cases the center hold was zeroed for supers. Then somewhere around the supers 300-400 line (about 2 mils IIRC) is where subs are held at closer 50-100 ranges. It isn’t hard to do the same with an ACSS reticle after zeroing with supers. Through a little experimentation shooting with subs at 100 yards holding the 3 through 6 lines and a little trial and error with a ballistics program versus actual 100 yard target impacts for those holds. Then later shoot another round of field dope at extended ranges and large target backers to confirm. Any windage offsets caused by subs can also be noted. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 10:04:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bully13]
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Originally Posted By bully13: Palmetto State Armory had a nice deal on Vortex Strike Eagles 1-8s, not sure if they still do or not There’s one in the EE right now. Strike Eagle 1-8 PSA had them for 250 with a PEPR Edit: they are now 230 with no mount |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 10:15:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BladedRonin: A PA prism w 300blk reticle. This would be my choice for general use |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 10:17:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By coyotesilencer: I really like the Burris Fullfield 4.4-14 with MOA reticle for an all around scope. It has good glass and positive clicking turrets and etched reticle. Made in Philippines with lifetime warranty. The MOA reticle can be used with most any cartridge. $156 shipped We've had very good luck with Burris and that's a great deal. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 10:18:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bravo_Six: I feel like a broken record, but ... what are you using it for? Assuming it is for your RAR and pigs, as in your other thread, I think any 3-9x40 from a reputable maker will suffice. I like the SWFA HD one since it is FFP with decent Jap glass and has a usable reticle. I would avoid any type of BDC since .300 blk trajectories are all over the place depending on the load. Or maybe get thermal. I used to like BDC reticles and knobs. I am slowly shifting back to mil reticles and knobs. Just one system is better, that said I still have Leupold reticles in moa format. Great scopes that were blown out cheap. 
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Posted: 5/19/2024 10:23:04 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2024 10:44:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2024 10:57:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHumidity: Primary Arms whatever in their 300 BO specific ACSS reticle. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 11:06:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BladedRonin: A PA prism w 300blk reticle. This, get the 2.5. magnification, perfect especially for a short barrel. |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 11:09:57 AM EDT
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the scope will shoot better than your eyes can see
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Beileshi-3-9x40-EG-Optical-Rifle-Scopes-with-Red-Green-Illuminated-Rangefinder-Reticle-20mm-Mounts/1089212375?athbdg=L1200&adsRedirect=true |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 11:17:52 AM EDT
[#37]
Skip the 1-8 Strike eagle, eyebox really sucks. The 1-6x was better.
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Posted: 5/19/2024 11:23:29 AM EDT
[#38]
Burris RT6 can be had for around three bills.
 
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Posted: 5/19/2024 11:35:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: shaggy]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BladedRonin: A PA prism w 300blk reticle. Yup - 3x microprism. |
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Posted: 5/19/2024 11:41:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tc2129]
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I think they get quite a bit of hate here, but I’ve got a Swampfox LPVO I got pretty cheap with a LEO discount. I mounted it to a 18” 223 Wylde I built up as sort of a RECCE build. I’ve been pleased with it. It’s a little heavy but I haven’t had any issues with it. I’ve put a lot of rounds through the rifle and the scope has been great. I mounted it in a Larue mount
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Posted: 5/19/2024 11:44:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midcap: the scope will shoot better than your eyes can see https://www.walmart.com/ip/Beileshi-3-9x40-EG-Optical-Rifle-Scopes-with-Red-Green-Illuminated-Rangefinder-Reticle-20mm-Mounts/1089212375?athbdg=L1200&adsRedirect=true 
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Posted: 5/19/2024 11:45:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bully13: Palmetto State Armory had a nice deal on Vortex Strike Eagles 1-8s, not sure if they still do or not This is what I use. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2024 11:47:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: makintrax73]
[#43]
I put a PA scope on mine. Sighted in. Drove to TX for a hog hunt. When I got there it was 6in off, and it wasn't because the mount was loose. I like PA, and they have provided excellent CS with fast shipping. But I wouldn't use one of their cheap scopes on a hunting rifle.
IIRC I put a 1-6 Burris like linked above on it which has been fine, and I think it was $100 or something more than the PA scope. I've used that for deer hunting here now that 300blk is legal for deer in IL. |
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Posted: 5/20/2024 9:14:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BladedRonin: A PA prism w 300blk reticle. ... it doesn't seem to be live on their site anymore. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2024 10:30:29 AM EDT
[#45]
Primary Arms 1x prism with .300BLK reticle was perfect for my my 10.5" SBR needs.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2024 11:13:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigHumidity: Primary Arms whatever in their 300 BO specific ACSS reticle. Right here is a great option. I have a PA 1-6 on my 300BO Ruger Ranch. Great setup. |
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