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Posted: 8/12/2023 3:43:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OTDR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: It is .223 CIP. Yep, agreed, 100% like you have been saying all along, no doubt about it. Need to buy more .223 ammo for my stash. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 3:54:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTDR: Yep, agreed, 100% like you have been saying all along, no doubt about it. Need to buy more .223 ammo for my stash. Some additional info.  Attached File Attached File |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:15:28 PM EDT
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Video of testing Chamber shows .223.
 Is the new European Colt really chambered in .223 or is it 5.56 in disguise? Lets find out! |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:48:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTDR: Video of testing Chamber shows .223.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-KjE8dSP9oGreat video man. Thanks for doing that. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/12/2023 10:17:04 PM EDT
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For the less intelligent like me, is it safe to fire M193 55gr clone 5.56 ammo in a CIP .233 chamber?
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/13/2023 6:08:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: securenet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Park-Hit-Run: For the less intelligent like me, is it safe to fire M193 55gr clone 5.56 ammo in a CIP .233 chamber? I am not positive but it seems like the CIP .223 rating is close to the 5.56 rating. The below quote is from this article https://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/tag/223-rem-c-i-p-rem/ "The C.I.P. standards for the C.I.P. civilian .223 Remington chamber are much closer to the military 5.56×45mm NATO chamber." Now if the makes it safe to do so I am not sure. |
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Posted: 9/8/2023 8:27:34 PM EDT
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Has anyone seen any of the European SBRs? I heard there were a handful made.
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Posted: 9/8/2023 8:31:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brook99: Has anyone seen any of the European SBRs? I heard there were a handful made. They haven't hit the market yet. |
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Posted: 9/8/2023 8:32:46 PM EDT
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Do you know what length they are?
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Posted: 9/8/2023 8:34:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brook99: Do you know what length they are? If they end up getting released, they will be 14.5" with pin/weld flash hider. |
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Posted: 9/8/2023 8:37:28 PM EDT
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I heard there was some 10.5 i was hoping for 10-12in
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Posted: 9/8/2023 8:41:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brook99: I heard there was some 10.5 i was hoping for 10-12in If you are talking European carbines, I haven't heard of anything hitting the market other than the current 16-inch barrels and the 14.5- inch barrel. These are single releases also. I'm trying to decide if I want one the 14.5-inch versions or not. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2023 9:22:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: If they end up getting released, they will be 14.5" with pin/weld flash hider. SOCOM or regular profile? |
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Posted: 9/8/2023 9:41:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hollowpoint2003: SOCOM or regular profile? SOCOM |
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Posted: 9/8/2023 9:52:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jozsi: I saw these in my gun shop in Budapest. They are nice looking and are selling pretty fast. What kind of rifles can civilians own in Hungary? |
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ITA
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Posted: 9/9/2023 8:43:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: What kind of rifles can civilians own in Hungary? I’m not in Hungary but The EU is trying to standardize the gun laws over here. General rule is that semiauto are ok even if MSR are being targeted here as well but for now we can buy/own/use them. Usually we don’t have the SBR thing so <16” barrels are ok. The stock may or may not be pinned in places depending on the OAL |
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Posted: 9/9/2023 11:46:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTDR: Not going to be today. All the FFLs around me suck doing transfers, some taking 2-3 days. If I was an FFL, here would be my policy. As soon as you see the tracking # showed delivered, Come on Down, if its not ready when you get here, we will be processing it while you wait, but instead her is what one FFLs policy is: The Preparedness Depot: (lots of poor attitude in this policy IMHO) TPD FFL Transfer Request **Due to Staffing & amount of requests, it may take up to 72 hours to check in your firearm - please wait for your email** This form is for a FFL Transfer. $25.00 per FFL Serialized Item and $100 per NFA Item. Want free transfers? Join our membership in store and get free yearly transfers. Please read the requirements below carefully. 1. You as a customer MUST FILL out this transfer form completely and use the dealers email they want the FFL going to, because this form auto sends our FFL to them and we do not monitor it. Why do you use this form? - This form lets us know what firearm is coming and who to contact when the firearm arrives. Dealers you buy from online do not always add info to the shipment, nor do they always include their FFL or IDs to check it in. We have 24hours to get it on the books before we are liable and have to mail it back. Filling out this form in its entirety, is up to you as a customer - not the sender. This is non negotiable and those that refuse to complete this form will be added to a ban list and will no longer be able to transfer firearms here. We simply cannot spend all day chasing down personal sellers/shippers/dealers/etc, who do not include the required legal paperwork to check in a firearm as a FFL. 2. Pick up policy is to WAIT for our email. When we have received the firearm and it is ready for transfer, we will email you. 3. DO NOT SHOW UP to pick up your firearm prior to being notified it is ready for pickup. We will only EMAIL you when it is ready. Repeat infractions will result in a $25.00 charge being assessed for failure to follow this. 4. DO NOT SHOW UP to pick up your firearm with only a shipping notice that it has been delivered. We do not allow truck chasing. We have to check in your firearm before it can be picked up. 5. Do not show up at 6:30pm or 30mins prior to closing and expect to pick up your firearm. Our guns and yours are locked up at 6:30pm or 30 minutes till close. Zero exceptions. **Reasons why you will be charged an additional $25+ for transfers** - All Transfers not picked up within 7 days of our email to you will result in a $25 per week storage fee due before pickup. - Calling to Expedite a transfer before we have emailed you will result in a additional $25 fee. - Repeatedly calling to check on your transfer status will result in a additional $25 fee. - NOT completing this form for us ahead of time and having firearms shipped to us, just because we are on file is a $25.00 Fee per gun. - Showing up at 6:30pm or 30 minutes till close asking for your transfer will result in $75 being added for disregarding our rules and our staffs feelings after working a 10 hour shift and trying to go home to see family on time. Most of those are very reasonable rules. |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 6:51:48 PM EDT
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Down 1 more. 20 left.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 11/8/2023 2:33:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OTDR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fuatos: Down 1 more. 20 left. Price drop email today, $825:00. I may buy another. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 11/12/2023 11:40:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTDR: Price drop email today, $825:00. I may buy another. That's a good price, even with a .223 chamber. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/13/2023 9:26:45 PM EDT
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I ordered one, so they're down to 12. That said, they went out of stock about a month ago and then reappeared in stock. So, I'm taking their quantities with a grain of salt.
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Posted: 11/14/2023 12:52:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTDR: Yep, agreed, 100% like you have been saying all along, no doubt about it. Need to buy more .223 ammo for my stash. You can use Ned Christiansen’s throat reamer or just put a few thousand rounds down the pipe and you will have a 5.56 leade in the throat. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 11/14/2023 1:22:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyMetal: You can use Ned Christiansen’s throat reamer or just put a few thousand rounds down the pipe and you will have a 5.56 leade in the throat. I actually have one of those, but plan on leaving it like it is. 
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Posted: 12/20/2023 6:57:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyA: I’m not a lawyer but believe the US government does not allow any items regulated by the NFA to be exported for civilian ownership. there are lot of NFA regulated items made in the USA that are owned by civilians in Canada. There were times where stuff was allowed out, but those times changed as often as the wind changes direction. Mark |
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Posted: 12/21/2023 1:49:59 PM EDT
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has anyone gotten one of the European SBR version ones?
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USA
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Posted: 12/21/2023 4:17:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brook99: has anyone gotten one of the European SBR version ones? Who has them? |
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Posted: 12/21/2023 4:48:56 PM EDT
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here's hoping for you guys that they don't have Euro spec triggers. Silliest thing going.
Mark |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 12/21/2023 5:25:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalConcepts: here's hoping for you guys that they don't have Euro spec triggers. Silliest thing going. Mark Can you explain the difference between. TIA! |
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Posted: 12/22/2023 6:19:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTDR: Can you explain the difference between. TIA! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTDR: Originally Posted By TacticalConcepts: here's hoping for you guys that they don't have Euro spec triggers. Silliest thing going. Mark Can you explain the difference between. TIA! Euro spec: Ability place your weapon on safe with the hammer in the fired/de-cocked position and still allow you to charge the firearm without returning to the fire position. |
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Posted: 12/22/2023 9:06:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Euro spec: Ability place your weapon on safe with the hammer in the fired/de-cocked position and still allow you to charge the firearm without returning to the fire position. this - from what I know, LMT designed a trigger to do this for a european contract. Silliest thing going in my mind. I like knowing that I cannot put the selector on safe when the hammer is forward because it lets me know something about the functioning of the FCG. I digress Mark |
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Posted: 12/22/2023 9:19:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalConcepts: this - from what I know, LMT designed a trigger to do this for a european contract. Silliest thing going in my mind. I like knowing that I cannot put the selector on safe when the hammer is forward because it lets me know something about the functioning of the FCG. I digress Mark Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalConcepts: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Euro spec: Ability place your weapon on safe with the hammer in the fired/de-cocked position and still allow you to charge the firearm without returning to the fire position. this - from what I know, LMT designed a trigger to do this for a european contract. Silliest thing going in my mind. I like knowing that I cannot put the selector on safe when the hammer is forward because it lets me know something about the functioning of the FCG. I digress Mark LMT EURO AXLE |
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Posted: 12/22/2023 11:08:47 AM EDT
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Quote Historybingo, would love to try the trigger without the euro feature. |
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Posted: 12/23/2023 8:34:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Apple3_14159]
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Quote HistoryI have one of these and it's not very good. Kinda heavy and the second stage is very creepy (albeit decently smooth). Some day I might get the regular AXLE just to compare but I'm guessing there's really no reason to get one over a Geissele. |
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ITA
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Posted: 12/24/2023 9:07:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: Euro spec: Ability place your weapon on safe with the hammer in the fired/de-cocked position and still allow you to charge the firearm without returning to the fire position. I guess this is just a mil contract thing. I’m not aware of such a requirement for civilian guns. |
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Posted: 12/24/2023 11:01:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frens: I guess this is just a mil contract thing. I’m not aware of such a requirement for civilian guns. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frens: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Euro spec: Ability place your weapon on safe with the hammer in the fired/de-cocked position and still allow you to charge the firearm without returning to the fire position. I guess this is just a mil contract thing. I’m not aware of such a requirement for civilian guns. You are likely correct. FWIW, Sig has/had one also. |
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Posted: 12/24/2023 2:11:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frens: I guess this is just a mil contract thing. I’m not aware of such a requirement for civilian guns. totally a govt requirement and not for civilian sales. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 12/30/2023 10:48:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTDR: Video of testing Chamber shows .223. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-KjE8dSP9oVideo shows the gage hanging up somewhere but does not show WHERE it is hanging up at. A casting and some measurements would be golden for really finding out what exactly is going on. |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 1:45:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bret: Who has them? i saw a couple on gunbroker. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/3/2024 3:19:53 PM EDT
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I looked them up. The price is $2,600. Apparently, the owner doesn't really want to sell them. :(
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Posted: 1/3/2024 3:22:12 PM EDT
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Arms Unlimited still has them available for $825.00
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Posted: 1/3/2024 6:42:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: Arms Unlimited still has them available for $825.00 https://armsunlimited.com/colt-carbine-223-semi-auto-rifle-european-model/ |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2024 8:51:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OTDR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aaron56: Video shows the gage hanging up somewhere but does not show WHERE it is hanging up at. A casting and some measurements would be golden for really finding out what exactly is going on. Its .223 like Minuteman said from the very beginning, like Colt stated and like the 5.56 gauge showed as designed. As for where its hanging up, would be easy enough to paint the gauge with Blue Dykem and find out, but I am not motivated enough to bother at this point, because its .223. Super stoked to have bought 2. Only wish I had bought a 2nd of the MEXI-Colts when I first learned about them from Minuteman. Not going to make that mistake again. Someone on Minuteman's private group bought like 25 of those lol, I saw the picture of the piles of MEXI-Colt boxes he posted. I couldn't believe it. |
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Posted: 1/4/2024 4:05:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bret: I looked them up. The price is $2,600. Apparently, the owner doesn't really want to sell them. :( have you seen a better price for them anywhere else? |
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Posted: 1/4/2024 4:06:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brook99: have you seen a better price for them anywhere else? As posted two posts above this...$825 at Arms Unlimited |
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USA
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Posted: 1/4/2024 5:17:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brook99: have you seen a better price for them anywhere else? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brook99: have you seen a better price for them anywhere else? No, but I have literally not seen them anywhere else. If he could make the case that those are the only two ever released for sale in the US, perhaps by providing a letter from Colt, then he might be able to get a Colt collector to buy one. It's listed as a 6920 even though it has a 11.5" barrel, so I'm suspect. Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: As posted two posts above this...$825 at Arms Unlimited These last few posts have been in reference to SBR's. Arms Unlimited doesn't have them. |
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Posted: 1/5/2024 4:58:56 PM EDT
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I am pretty sure someone had one on here or was talking about having one. I will see if I can find the post.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2024 10:39:37 PM EDT
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As a FYI, Arms Unlimited also has a Colt .45acp 1911 with no lettering on the Slide but marked US23. This would make a good companion piece to the European AR-15. It sucks when one has no $'s for these....
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/20/2024 9:40:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bingo: As a FYI, Arms Unlimited also has a Colt .45acp 1911 with no lettering on the Slide but marked US23. This would make a good companion piece to the European AR-15. It sucks when one has no $'s for these.... See this thread for more info. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Industry/Colt-1911-EC-contract-guns-markings-question-from-AU/29-305003/ |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2024 12:14:23 AM EDT
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AU website shows sold out! Glad I got 2!
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2024 9:46:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Landpimp: Just opened up what was suppose to be a complete LE6920CK upper...what I actually received was one of these serial numbered .223 CR23 uppers. Really have no use for a .223 only upper. I guess it's time to learn to change a barrel, which was on my list But then I started to think...my 1965 and I think my 1977 SP1 are 223rem... And then there is the HK MR223 and MR556, others I am sure. Are the euro specs for .223 different then US? Just curios what did you ever do with this Euro .223 upper? |
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