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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: I have seen the utterly out of touch six figure prices. They are even more retarded, and when the bubble bursts on the price of those, I'll laugh at them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By madmacs69: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Amen to that. The prices are beyond stupid. https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiDdj0KbM9DzwoY2poVNpP7-QQ0ZcmuRI6tPvSr2zMawwdNs4Q2xt4NYZKoPw_jWPkG7gxC9kGQ65hMubCfVYIHZ7XU_Fpex_i2z2gjC4K36WBVjC6z9LDVacbKbXq8eETpzPCIL4sEyAumAsEk2jdosWK7_eOmoOxrzu1HZr5oY0lxmb8q61s1/s16000/441243317_10168529399800510_4109931579225305436_n.jpg https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVW2-SARy3_F3fEyXWshHslItU-L2ZQlqjI2Uo4ohymC_8D2azxvrMNgyf7jh4SEYTZFactLJq04cLeKqiKhr5_8qyTFc5xBMkL7pxJo4tifFqpbgQFKUSwxZ9od7rvkEwDYixR7P54DXVftnPoDKL16MowgaDhatXN1BhOgJLyxSEi7e1oL6Q/s16000/441249871_10168529399895510_887965729251561144_n.jpg https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEga6efi3wKO5sKyK8mQD89UT7w3eHpfkw6PTXujRGxZfSM_OeAsnjFpRKe4GTqTULn_0mc4t5N7ZsOP0P4oD8LzVDZJSNFXuAkjYefMt9FWPNfGkvpRe8-_To9R5ZFi2zPKjeqAK8e9LMsgZKU05Ts4SuC07O2-x6LOIEIFxdb0TqGAl2GZK4Gx/s16000/441219682_10168529399900510_5733381536909489289_n.jpg https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/470305795563747/?ref=product_details&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top_picks What kind of a mouth-breathing mental midget has this in his back yard and thinks a sane asking price is 4500? That bus is in legit "i'll pay you to get this out of here for me before it finishes melting into the dirt" level stuff. It's a split window... look up the restored prices. Then just import a Brazilian one. I have seen the utterly out of touch six figure prices. They are even more retarded, and when the bubble bursts on the price of those, I'll laugh at them. That's why you buy a Brazilian split that was made until 1975 for about $40k restored (?) Or slum it and pick up a bay window that isn't as cool but was made until 2013(?) Don't expect AC or heating though... especially not heating. |
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Originally Posted By 917-30: Nice Mopar collection you have!!! Is that a real Charger Dayona? 440 and TorqueFlite? As a kid I lived about a half mile from a guy with a Hemi Charger Daytona (4 sp) and five Superbirds. His son daily drove a Superbird in Petty livery. View Quote It’s a Superbird. Yes, it’s a numbers matching 440 with a 727. |
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Originally Posted By FMJshooter: There's more to the story. I've got a 306 that I slapped together in my garage using spare parts for around $3k that pushes a 65 Mustang 12 flat on pump gas and 10.80's on nitrous. It has head gaskets that were likely made in the mid 90's that I found laying around in the back of a shop, compression ratio is something like 7:1 and one of the cylinders is scored. Been making passes on it weekly for about a year shifting at 7k rpm. It's a very literal pile of shit but will still destroy anything new in the 1/4 that doesn't cost $70k+ and garner waaaay more attention while doing it. People go ape over this thing everytime I bring it out. You can fart at a big block Chevy and make 5-600hp and matching lbft Old junk is badass. View Quote It won't though. 10.80s and NEW is easy these days for well under 70K..... In a pickup no less if you need a bed. 48K with a warranty. Hell, the govmint will give you a 7K rebate, and Tesla will give you 0.9% financing these days on a 2.9 0-60, and high 10s in the 1/4. probably.... not sure, don't care on those honestly. Basic bitch Coyote Mustangs are going mid-9s with bolt on TT kits. It's a wonderful time to be alive in the modern performance car scene!!! |
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Originally Posted By Square66: No they don’t make “all that crap” and some of it they never will. The market won’t be big enough. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Square66: Originally Posted By TZLVredmist: They already make all that crap aftermarket for a lot of popular modern cars. No they don’t make “all that crap” and some of it they never will. The market won’t be big enough. Crutchfield will sell you a new dash unit that has all the same controls as the Toyota touchscreen. It’s already being done. The companies sell the IP once the production scale shrinks. It’s sold to companies that profitably produce on a smaller scale. |
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Originally Posted By housewolf: Big difference between a "street car" and a "daily driver". I doubt many low 8 second cars are daily drivers but I'm sure they're a few. Larry Larson had a "street car" in the 6s ~15 years ago. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By housewolf: Originally Posted By Pokernut: Murda on twitch used to drive his 7 second lexus all over the dallas fort worth area. Then run a few passes at the track, live stream the rest of the drag racing and drive it home. 7s no. 9s yes Anyone with a Coyote equipped vehicle is a credit card transaction and a weekend bolt on fest away from 9s in a daily. |
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Originally Posted By Anonymoose1: I have seen a substantial number of small Asian that can that can do that. Hell, in the early 70s, the best affordable sports car was the 240Z. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Anonymoose1: Originally Posted By Singlestack_Wonder: 1966 Shelby 427 Cobras routinely went from 0 to 100 and back to 0 in 13 seconds. I've yet to see small aisian cars with fart mufflers do that. I have seen a substantial number of small Asian that can that can do that. Hell, in the early 70s, the best affordable sports car was the 240Z. But not with that all-American, big block rumble that's part of the total experience. My son's 5-speed, 427 at full-song is the automotive equivalent to The Ride of the Valkyries, with more panache than any rice rocket. Attached File |
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Until a solar flair hits & my old ass Jeep is still running bc I can kick start it if i swap in a manual transmission (which on an old Jeep, can be done in a few hours).
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Originally Posted By TZLVredmist: 7s no. 9s yes Anyone with a Coyote equipped vehicle is a credit card transaction and a weekend bolt on fest away from 9s in a daily. View Quote I also have a '13 DD 4 dr sedan that's just E85 away from being in the 10s with stock exhaust manifolds |
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Originally Posted By madmacs69: That's why you buy a Brazilian split that was made until 1975 for about $40k restored (?) Or slum it and pick up a bay window that isn't as cool but was made until 2013(?) Don't expect AC or heating though... especially not heating. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By madmacs69: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Originally Posted By madmacs69: Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: Amen to that. The prices are beyond stupid. https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiDdj0KbM9DzwoY2poVNpP7-QQ0ZcmuRI6tPvSr2zMawwdNs4Q2xt4NYZKoPw_jWPkG7gxC9kGQ65hMubCfVYIHZ7XU_Fpex_i2z2gjC4K36WBVjC6z9LDVacbKbXq8eETpzPCIL4sEyAumAsEk2jdosWK7_eOmoOxrzu1HZr5oY0lxmb8q61s1/s16000/441243317_10168529399800510_4109931579225305436_n.jpg https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhVW2-SARy3_F3fEyXWshHslItU-L2ZQlqjI2Uo4ohymC_8D2azxvrMNgyf7jh4SEYTZFactLJq04cLeKqiKhr5_8qyTFc5xBMkL7pxJo4tifFqpbgQFKUSwxZ9od7rvkEwDYixR7P54DXVftnPoDKL16MowgaDhatXN1BhOgJLyxSEi7e1oL6Q/s16000/441249871_10168529399895510_887965729251561144_n.jpg https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEga6efi3wKO5sKyK8mQD89UT7w3eHpfkw6PTXujRGxZfSM_OeAsnjFpRKe4GTqTULn_0mc4t5N7ZsOP0P4oD8LzVDZJSNFXuAkjYefMt9FWPNfGkvpRe8-_To9R5ZFi2zPKjeqAK8e9LMsgZKU05Ts4SuC07O2-x6LOIEIFxdb0TqGAl2GZK4Gx/s16000/441219682_10168529399900510_5733381536909489289_n.jpg https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/470305795563747/?ref=product_details&referral_code=marketplace_top_picks&referral_story_type=top_picks What kind of a mouth-breathing mental midget has this in his back yard and thinks a sane asking price is 4500? That bus is in legit "i'll pay you to get this out of here for me before it finishes melting into the dirt" level stuff. It's a split window... look up the restored prices. Then just import a Brazilian one. I have seen the utterly out of touch six figure prices. They are even more retarded, and when the bubble bursts on the price of those, I'll laugh at them. That's why you buy a Brazilian split that was made until 1975 for about $40k restored (?) Or slum it and pick up a bay window that isn't as cool but was made until 2013(?) Don't expect AC or heating though... especially not heating. I grew up riding around in the back of a type 3 wagon, I grok that. Though I always had a fever dream of putting enough oil cooling onto a rhino-cased one with the biggest jugs you could get so that It could run one of those really efficient AC pumps. ETA: no heat ... I recall that when the ducting and stuff on ours was in good shape, it would almost burn the hair on your legs off... am I remembering wrong? |
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Originally Posted By HammerTech: I guess the main draw for me, is I don't have to wander around in the mall parking lot clicking the car fob trying to find the damn thing. https://i.imgur.com/xoR3H3p.jpg View Quote Nice old school '34. |
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Originally Posted By Strela: But not with that all-American, big block rumble that's part of the total experience. My son's 5-speed, 427 at full-song is the automotive equivalent to The Ride of the Valkyries, with more panache than any rice rocket. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6163/CobraChristmas21_jpeg-3214462.JPG View Quote While I agree with what you’re saying to a degree, you’re moving the goal posts. |
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Originally Posted By Cobradriver: While not real...this thing will do zero to 100 and back to zero in a frightening amount of time. It's 2200 lbs with approx 520 RWHP. I'm pretty much traction limited with the Cooper tires I run. When I had Hoosiers on it the thing launched like it was trying to break your neck. While launching in first is really fun, powershifting into second at 7500 is fucking brutal. I drive this thing like I stole it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203499/PXL_20230906_203419131-2944929.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cobradriver: While not real...this thing will do zero to 100 and back to zero in a frightening amount of time. It's 2200 lbs with approx 520 RWHP. I'm pretty much traction limited with the Cooper tires I run. When I had Hoosiers on it the thing launched like it was trying to break your neck. While launching in first is really fun, powershifting into second at 7500 is fucking brutal. I drive this thing like I stole it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203499/PXL_20230906_203419131-2944929.jpg Nice! Originally Posted By VoxLibertatis: Originally Posted By 917-30: Nice Mopar collection you have!!! Is that a real Charger Dayona? 440 and TorqueFlite? As a kid I lived about a half mile from a guy with a Hemi Charger Daytona (4 sp) and five Superbirds. His son daily drove a Superbird in Petty livery. It’s a Superbird. Yes, it’s a numbers matching 440 with a 727. That is awesome!!! |
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556: Which is why old cars should be rebuilt with modern components. View Quote I believe that's what's called "resto-modding" ... or at least a subgroup of that category. MegaSquirt for the win. https://www.diyautotune.com/support/tech/install/mopar/megasquirt-vintage-ignitions-mopar-fuel-injection/ |
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Originally Posted By Consigli: I had a 69 COPO Camaro with an aluminum block 427. Would tape a $100 bill to the dash and run the 1/4 mile with a passenger. And tell them if they could grab it during the run they could have it. G-forces always won and no one ever took my money. Try that in your Tesla. View Quote |
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25 years ago I told the old car club boys "these little Hondas are no different than the cars you guys bought....cheap, available and easy to work on. Someday, these are going to go up in value when us 20 year olds have money and the kids are grown."
That was met with lots of laughs, they told me to sell my CRX and find a real car. I said "ok fine, please direct me to a 55 BelAir, 68 Camaro or a 63 1/2 Galaxie on a used car lot I can buy for $3,000 or so?" .... crickets. |
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Originally Posted By LittlePony: Otherwise, modern cars blow them out of the water in every single respect. View Quote Not in every respect. Modern cars have tinfoil for sheetmetal. I had a 1971 Charger that could take ping pong sized hail with no dents. now cars dent at the mere whisper of hail. |
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Originally Posted By MontstrSp: 25 years ago I told the old car club boys "these little Hondas are no different than the cars you guys bought....cheap, available and easy to work on. Someday, these are going to go up in value when us 20 year olds have money and the kids are grown." That was met with lots of laughs, they told me to sell my CRX and find a real car. I said "ok fine, please direct me to a 55 BelAir, 68 Camaro or a 63 1/2 Galaxie on a used car lot I can buy for $3,000 or so?" .... crickets. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By JCoop: Originally Posted By Curdmugeon45: No one that isn't gender confused is getting a chubby over a 4 cyl. I love my V8's, but a high rpm 4 banger through a properly tuned exhaust sounds friggen amazing. You telling me some sport bikes don't sound incredible? |
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Originally Posted By Consigli: I had a 69 COPO Camaro with an aluminum block 427. Would tape a $100 bill to the dash and run the 1/4 mile with a passenger. And tell them if they could grab it during the run they could have it. G-forces always won and no one ever took my money. Try that in your Tesla. View Quote No you didn’t, that is the oldest bullshit story in the car hobby. And if you actually did have such a rare vehicle it would be matched by a lot of basic Teslas off the showroom floor and beaten by 2 seconds in the 1/4 by the top of the line ones. Quit making up shit to look cool. Camaro test 11.8 1/4 Tesla 1/4 times by model |
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Originally Posted By Anonymoose1: While I agree with what you’re saying to a degree, you’re moving the goal posts. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Anonymoose1: Originally Posted By Strela: But not with that all-American, big block rumble that's part of the total experience. My son's 5-speed, 427 at full-song is the automotive equivalent to The Ride of the Valkyries, with more panache than any rice rocket. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6163/CobraChristmas21_jpeg-3214462.JPG While I agree with what you’re saying to a degree, you’re moving the goal posts. In what way? The thread started by bashing old cars ("Classic car delusion") and you opined about some modern imports duplicating the performance of some 1966-spec cars. I didn't dispute that. |
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14 sec in the 1/4 was fast until the 2000s. For 30 years it was a ~true statement.
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Is this a classic car picture thread yet?
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Originally Posted By Bloviator: 14 sec in the 1/4 was fast until the 2000s. For 30 years it was a ~true statement. View Quote Non-radial tires for the scarry wobbly mushy drive! Suspensions and steering from the past weren't made for tires that could grip as well as ours can. God bless places like https://firmfeel.com/ |
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*opens wing windows, floor vents, settles into comfy cloth benchseat* ywah, newer cars have *all* the good stuff... not
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: ETA: no heat ... I recall that when the ducting and stuff on ours was in good shape, it would almost burn the hair on your legs off... am I remembering wrong? View Quote Air cooled engine waaaaaaaaay far behind you.... huge air volume to fill. About the only way to heat my '76 type 2 camper in winter was using the propane cooker, and that wasn't advisable when driving. |
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Originally Posted By _DR: Not in every respect. Modern cars have tinfoil for sheetmetal. I had a 1971 Charger that could take ping pong sized hail with no dents. now cars dent at the mere whisper of hail. View Quote What’s the point exactly? Heavier is better? Modern cars routinely protect their occupants from crashes that would have seriously injured or killed anyone in a older car. Less weight means faster, crumple zones mean more occupant survivability. We also have much better body working ability, paintless dent repair works much better on the thinner metal. |
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Originally Posted By Defcon6280: What’s the point exactly? Heavier is better? Modern cars routinely protect their occupants from crashes that would have seriously injured or killed anyone in a older car. Less weight means faster, crumple zones mean more occupant survivability. We also have much better body working ability, paintless dent repair works much better on the thinner metal. View Quote New cars are FAR heavier than older cars. By a large margin. The weight in new cars is NOT in the fenders. It's in the passenger cab structure. Take a look at how fat those a-pillars are. Also, the front door mounting and the dash/footwell on most new cars are obscenely heavy. |
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k: I believe that's what's called "resto-modding" ... or at least a subgroup of that category. MegaSquirt for the win. https://www.diyautotune.com/support/tech/install/mopar/megasquirt-vintage-ignitions-mopar-fuel-injection/ View Quote I was struck by the rise of restomods at Barrett-Jackson this year. It seems like it wasn’t that long ago that Preston’s were looked down on and it was sacrilege. Restomods were cheap and the all originals were big bucks. This year, I watched what seemed like about 8 restomod ‘66 Vettes go for $250k each, give or take $7,000. It was impressive and consistent. People are apparently tired of their cool old shit being slow and the market shows. |
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Originally Posted By Osprey61: It's been attributed to everyone and their brother, Churchill paraphrased it, before anyone starts, but the original is better (keeping in mind "republicain" referred to the progressives of that era). "He who is not a r publicain at twenty compels one to doubt the generosity of his heart; but he who, after thirty, persists, compels one to doubt the soundness of his mind." Anselme Polycarpe Batbie The Lost in the 50s car show is this weekend in Sandpoint. Thousands and thousands of people come in for it, mostly to celebrate the enduring love of style and individuality over technology. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Defcon6280: No you didn’t, that is the oldest bullshit story in the car hobby. And if you actually did have such a rare vehicle it would be matched by a lot of basic Teslas off the showroom floor and beaten by 2 seconds in the 1/4 by the top of the line ones. Quit making up shit to look cool. Camaro test 11.8 1/4 Tesla 1/4 times by model View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Defcon6280: Originally Posted By Consigli: I had a 69 COPO Camaro with an aluminum block 427. Would tape a $100 bill to the dash and run the 1/4 mile with a passenger. And tell them if they could grab it during the run they could have it. G-forces always won and no one ever took my money. Try that in your Tesla. No you didn’t, that is the oldest bullshit story in the car hobby. And if you actually did have such a rare vehicle it would be matched by a lot of basic Teslas off the showroom floor and beaten by 2 seconds in the 1/4 by the top of the line ones. Quit making up shit to look cool. Camaro test 11.8 1/4 Tesla 1/4 times by model I got rid of that COPO for a 1970 Road Runner with a 440 6 pack and an air grabber hood. That air grabber hood sucked up so much oxygen most of the other cars stalled out in a drag race from lack of air. I beat every one of them. It was the best of times sonny. You sound a little hostile and butt hurt. |
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Originally Posted By Consigli: I got rid of that COPO for a 1970 Road Runner with a 440 6 pack and an air grabber hood. That air grabber hood sucked up so much oxygen most of the other cars stalled out in a drag race from lack of air. I beat every one of them. It was the best of times sonny. You sound a little hostile and butt hurt. View Quote I apologize for my previous post, I now understand. Salute. |
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Originally Posted By Strela: But not with that all-American, big block rumble that's part of the total experience. My son's 5-speed, 427 at full-song is the automotive equivalent to The Ride of the Valkyries, with more panache than any rice rocket. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/6163/CobraChristmas21_jpeg-3214462.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Consigli: I got rid of that COPO for a 1970 Road Runner with a 440 6 pack and an air grabber hood. That air grabber hood sucked up so much oxygen most of the other cars stalled out in a drag race from lack of air. I beat every one of them. It was the best of times sonny. You sound a little hostile and butt hurt. View Quote I'm sorry I doubted your story as well. I only recently heard from a local guy how potent Mopar engines were. I though a 750cfm carb was more than enough for a stockish big block on the street, and maybe a 650 would even maybe be better. He informed me that for a Ford or a GM, sure that was enough. But those big Mopars need at least 1,400cfm, and the police car motors he builds all came with 1,200cfm carbs stock but nobody knew that. |
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Originally Posted By doc540: Monster Miata's been selling them for 30 years. Local doctor bought one for his son's 16th bday. View Quote Holy cow. Hope he's had his son in a few performance driving schools already! My kid's getting a rusty beige 87 Buick Century with a burnt valve like I got. |
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Originally Posted By Kanati: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/265591/b58e1deaea087287a4fcfbd5b6bca532bda999af-3214102.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Kanati: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/265591/b58e1deaea087287a4fcfbd5b6bca532bda999af-3214102.JPG Yes. Originally Posted By MallNinja531: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505993/5aa2c7eeb8bd1b9c2d23ee4d478b38f4_jpg-3214120.JPG But seriously, old cars aren't necessarily cool due to horsepower/quarter mile/speed. They're cool because you don't see them day in and day out, they have a very cerebral sight/sound/smell (loads of raw unburnt fuel. Yummy!) and it's just a fun novelty. Sorry your husband won't let you get one OP. I highly doubt you're having as much fun in your Camry as I am rowing gears in this. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505993/IMG_20230919_112141373_jpg-3214126.JPG |
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