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Originally Posted By explodingvarmints: Never really understood Argo's either. Slow, bumpy, loud, uncomfortable, etc. They float, I get that, but beyond that. . . Rather have a UTV and a small john boat. View Quote Yeah. But the part where "I can't decide between an apple and a box of Jell-O or a crescent wrench" is where I got totally lost. |
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Originally Posted By LexDiamonds: Any other Teryx owners? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By deuce_22: POLARIS GENERAL XP Yeah. But the part where "I can't decide between an apple and a box of Jell-O or a crescent wrench" is where I got totally lost. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By deuce_22: POLARIS GENERAL XP Originally Posted By explodingvarmints: Never really understood Argo's either. Slow, bumpy, loud, uncomfortable, etc. They float, I get that, but beyond that. . . Rather have a UTV and a small john boat. Yeah. But the part where "I can't decide between an apple and a box of Jell-O or a crescent wrench" is where I got totally lost. If those things a little water over the side you better be prepared to swim. |
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Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII:
bruh. 87% of Gee Dee couldn't get laid in a Thai brothel with a black AMEX and a kilo of the finest blow on the planet. |
I tried to stay out of this because of the Polaris vs errbody else arguments, but what the hell…it’s a slow Sunday morning.
Between my Son and I, we’ve had 5 RZRs since 2013. We have ridden trails in Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Tennessee. We like rock crawling and don’t shy away from the toughest trails possible in a SXS. We have never had a breakdown that has left us stranded, had a buggy fail to start, or had a mechanical failure that was not our fault. RZRs are tough buggies and if maintained Will provide you years of trouble free trail riding. Can Am makes a tough buggy and you can’t go wrong…especially with the X3 line up. The Kawasaki is great, although not turbocharged is a bit down on power. This isn’t an issue unless you dune or desert ride. For trails they are great. They are geared low enough for 35s off the showroom floor. The Honda Talon is also a good choice. Geared instead of a belt, but like the Kawasaki, down on HP due to no turbo. My recommendations for sport trail riding - Polaris turbo RZR, Can Am X3, Kawasaki KRX, and Honda Talon. Also note…any of the above are absolute money pits if you get into max performance from your buggy. My buggy… Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Automaticslim: Between my Son and I, we've had 5 RZRs since 2013. We have ridden trails in Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Tennessee. View Quote Our group tries to do Mulbeery Mtn, AR annually and a few trips to Crossbar in Davis, OK. Never ridden in TX, but I'd like to. |
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Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII:
bruh. 87% of Gee Dee couldn't get laid in a Thai brothel with a black AMEX and a kilo of the finest blow on the planet. |
Originally Posted By Automaticslim: I tried to stay out of this because of the Polaris vs errbody else arguments, but what the hell…it’s a slow Sunday morning. Between my Son and I, we’ve had 5 RZRs since 2013. We have ridden trails in Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Tennessee. We like rock crawling and don’t shy away from the toughest trails possible in a SXS. We have never had a breakdown that has left us stranded, had a buggy fail to start, or had a mechanical failure that was not our fault. RZRs are tough buggies and if maintained Will provide you years of trouble free trail riding. Can Am makes a tough buggy and you can’t go wrong…especially with the X3 line up. The Kawasaki is great, although not turbocharged is a bit down on power. This isn’t an issue unless you dune or desert ride. For trails they are great. They are geared low enough for 35s off the showroom floor. The Honda Talon is also a good choice. Geared instead of a belt, but like the Kawasaki, down on HP due to no turbo. My recommendations for sport trail riding - Polaris turbo RZR, Can Am X3, Kawasaki KRX, and Honda Talon. Also note…any of the above are absolute money pits if you get into max performance from your buggy. My buggy… https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/395856/IMG_4106_jpeg-3205983.JPG View Quote I like that roll-cage. |
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Originally Posted By wm69: I'll post that quote again. Popularity doesn't mean it's decent quality. "Can am are gas guzzlers, Polaris can and will sell to anyone with a pay stub, credit or not, as far as the quality goes....I let it speak for itself. All the machine out back in our stable, 90% of them.....Polaris sportsmans and RZR's." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By wm69: Originally Posted By Lungbuster: Ive owned or driven them all. You are correct that the reason there’s more Polaris in the shop is because of their popularity. Polaris sells more than all the other dealers combined. I'll post that quote again. Popularity doesn't mean it's decent quality. "Can am are gas guzzlers, Polaris can and will sell to anyone with a pay stub, credit or not, as far as the quality goes....I let it speak for itself. All the machine out back in our stable, 90% of them.....Polaris sportsmans and RZR's." The debate is settled…because a guy at a Honda dealership said stuff that isn’t a Honda is junk. Dang, y’all are suckers for a sales pitch. I bet you fancy yourselves smarter than those dumb sales people, too. |
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Originally Posted By MethaneMover: I'm always looking for new spots. Where have you been in AR, TX and OK? Our group tries to do Mulbeery Mtn, AR annually and a few trips to Crossbar in Davis, OK. Never ridden in TX, but I'd like to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MethaneMover: Originally Posted By Automaticslim: Between my Son and I, we've had 5 RZRs since 2013. We have ridden trails in Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Colorado, and Tennessee. Our group tries to do Mulbeery Mtn, AR annually and a few trips to Crossbar in Davis, OK. Never ridden in TX, but I'd like to. In Texas we go to Hidden Falls in Marble Falls. Ok is Crossbar Ranch and Arkansas we go to Mack Pines. The cage is ABF in Joshua, Tx. Great folks to deal with. |
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Originally Posted By wm69: I'll post the quote again from the parts manager from Honda East Toledo, which sells and repairs all of the big brands. This was from emails back and forth a couple of years ago. Can am are gas guzzlers, Polaris can and will sell to anyone with a pay stub, credit or not, as far as the quality goes....I let it speak for itself. All the machine out back in our stable, 90% of them.....Polaris sportsmans and RZR's. I had to put a belt and clutch rollers in my FIL's Can Am HD8 with under 1K miles on it, stock tires. Otherwise it's been ok, but with only 1K miles on it, not really enough use to tell how it will be in the long term. I'm a Honda ATV guy, but there new stuff isn't as good as their old stuff. For years I'd buy 3-4 basketcase Honda ATV's (usually sunk, and then ridden till they died) and rebuild them. I have a lot of people show up and say "Hey, I've heard you're good with ATV/ UTV stuff, can you fix this?" and I've fixed a lot of stuff over the last decade. Were I looking at SxS's, especially a "sporty" one, I'd look at Yamaha first. The Honda 1000's had some issues early in the design that seem to have gotten better with some component upgrades. The700's aren't really a "sport" UTV, and the three speed transmission leaves a lot to be desired. The Yamaha has the best belt system. Hondas don't have belts. That puts them top of the heap for me. Can Am's are powerhouses, but power breaks stuff. Polaris and Arctic Cat are bottom of the barrel garbage as brands, and not only would I not buy one, I won't work on them anymore. They're just shit build quality, parts are $$$, and they have to be repaired over and over again. Polaris dealerships here don't last. Nobody buys them. The power junkies buy Can Am, everyone else buys Honda. View Quote You post is pretty much wrong in many ways..... My buddy owns a large Polaris/Honda/Yamaha dealership. Most of the Polaris that come in for service are issues from abuse, lack of maintenance or the owner trying to modify it themselves. Polaris is rock solid and driving them against a Talon or Rmax, the Polaris is a much better machine. Can Am are over rated and over priced but they are solid. I am a Kawi fan boy though. They have never given me a problem. Even made sure my golf cart had the Kawi 400 engine that come in the Mules (EZ go S4). OP, make sure to buy a machine suited to what your wanting to do. You don't need a turbo blah blah if unless your running dunes. Many of those machines are too wide and won't be allowed on trails or your trail experience can/will suck. Pretty safe with a Teryx, General, Ridge XR or Razr XP. For tight trails they may require something under 60" like a Rzr Trail. |
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They are a lot more fun than UTI's.
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Can the gear ratios in the diffs be changed in a sxs?
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"Now none of the frightened soldiers moved, for they saw that cowardice and valor purchased equal plots in the snipers' killing field."
“Everything is hard before it is easy.” |
Can the gear ratios in the diffs be changed in a sxs?
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"Now none of the frightened soldiers moved, for they saw that cowardice and valor purchased equal plots in the snipers' killing field."
“Everything is hard before it is easy.” |
In terms of a UTV/SxS, I'm a huge proponent of the multi-task.
I use mine mostly as a campground run-about, yard work, to push snow, and THEN to leisurely buzz around on the trails and off road. I have a 2023 Polaris Ranger 570, and it does all I need and more. I have no use for hauling ass at 70mph, or trying to pull 1000's of lbs worth of gear and trailer up a mountainside, etc. I paid $15k out the door... buy what you need, you can always "upgrade" to what you want later on if you feel you don't have enough. Cheers. |
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For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
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I went with the KRX.
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Originally Posted By Middlelength: I have a Honda Pioneer 520 that I am happy with. That is about as small as you can go, seats 2, we use it as a general utility vehicle. Put a roof, window, winch on it, otherwise it is stock. Very quiet, starts right up, fast as I need it to be, can run it on very narrow trails, etc, etc. View Quote I wanted a Kubota. Two years ago the dealer couldn't get one in to even look at. Decided to go with a Honda Pioneer 520. Wanted to stay away from a CVT transmission. Use almost exclusively for working around the property. Only upgraded the wheels and tires. Also roof and windshield. Went with very aggressive tire and wider offset. Very happy so far. |
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Originally Posted By Automaticslim: Excellent choice! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Automaticslim: Originally Posted By LexDiamonds: I went with the KRX. Excellent choice! I got a 2023 with 150mi on it. Full glass windshield, spare tire and carrier, dynojet, lightbar, fender flares, tender springs for $22500. It was a bit more than I wanted to spend but I feel its worth it. |
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Retired and spending Millennial/Zoomer money
ID, USA
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Originally Posted By LexDiamonds: I got a 2023 with 150mi on it. Full glass windshield, spare tire and carrier, dynojet, lightbar, fender flares, tender springs for $22500. It was a bit more than I wanted to spend but I feel its worth it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LexDiamonds: Originally Posted By Automaticslim: Originally Posted By LexDiamonds: I went with the KRX. Excellent choice! I got a 2023 with 150mi on it. Full glass windshield, spare tire and carrier, dynojet, lightbar, fender flares, tender springs for $22500. It was a bit more than I wanted to spend but I feel its worth it. Pro tip - 35x15 Rockzillas. You’ll thank me later |
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Honda Talon. Suspension sucks but reliable for 13,300 miles so far. Tires and a steering sensor/drive shaft unit were needed other than oil changes. Blackstone helped out there. I go every 3000 miles even though they say I could go to 5,000 for oil/filter.
Change the shock springs and/or suspension bypass switch for low speed trail comfort. Polaris makes a good unit but mine is street legal and belts don't cut it. Mine is the Talon X model. |
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Snap, bang or fizz I like all 3
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Originally Posted By LexDiamonds: I went with the KRX. View Quote Nice! Where's the pics? My KRX friends like Brute Performance for driveline upgrades and parts. |
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Originally Posted By Merlin: I don't understand the question. Change the engine from what? The diesel versions? Well of course. From the RTV-500? Yes again. I don't know who makes the 2 cyl. ~17 hp gas engine for the -520. Subaru made the original gas engine for the -XG850, but since 2023 or so, Kubota brought it in-house and they make it now. I *believe* it's the same engine, just now made by Kubota, but I'm not sure since I don't keep up with the latest in UTVs. View Quote With the added info you posted, I'll have to go back and look. ETA: Looks like the newer XG850 is 2 cylinder. |
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Originally Posted By mudholestomper: The debate is settled…because a guy at a Honda dealership said stuff that isn’t a Honda is junk. Dang, y’all are suckers for a sales pitch. I bet you fancy yourselves smarter than those dumb sales people, too. View Quote That dealership sells Honda, Polaris, Can Am, Kawasaki, Yamaha, Arctic Cat, and Suzuki in the ATV and UTV lines. But yeah, when a guy who sells parts for at a dealership that sells and repairs ALL of those brands says "Polaris are garbage and make up most of the broken down shit in our shop" you shouldn't listen. Honda East Toledo. Try looking at the website. It's a pretty big fucking dealership |
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Originally Posted By Torf: Sorry, I wasn't clear. I didn't see a gasser 3 cyl option on the website. The diesel was 3 cyl, but the gas was listed as 2 cyl. With the added info you posted, I'll have to go back and look. ETA: Looks like the newer XG850 is 2 cylinder. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Torf: Originally Posted By Merlin: I don't understand the question. Change the engine from what? The diesel versions? Well of course. From the RTV-500? Yes again. I don't know who makes the 2 cyl. ~17 hp gas engine for the -520. Subaru made the original gas engine for the -XG850, but since 2023 or so, Kubota brought it in-house and they make it now. I *believe* it's the same engine, just now made by Kubota, but I'm not sure since I don't keep up with the latest in UTVs. With the added info you posted, I'll have to go back and look. ETA: Looks like the newer XG850 is 2 cylinder. My '22 spec page shows it has 851 cc, which is what Kubota is showing for the 2024 version. So I *assume* it's the same engine. |
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Originally Posted By Merlin: I was mistaken , my Kubota XG850 has the 851 cc 2 cylinder gas engine; I could have swore it was three cylinders. My '22 spec page shows it has 851 cc, which is what Kubota is showing for the 2024 version. So I *assume* it's the same engine. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By deuce_22: That 5 inches of ground clearance will sure go a long way. I don't understand. View Quote On the Argo? More like 10 inches. Mine was no rock crawler, nor is it designed to be one. It was unstoppable in deep mud and swamp, though. It had Adair tracks that assisted in the water speed. I could get to duck hunting areas that almost no one else could. |
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Bumping for must have UTV/SXS accessories.
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Originally Posted By LexDiamonds: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/88457/00i0i_gBnSYqKph8W_0CI0t2_1200x900_jpg-3207993.JPG View Quote Good looking machine! Congratulations! |
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Originally Posted By LexDiamonds: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/88457/00i0i_gBnSYqKph8W_0CI0t2_1200x900_jpg-3207993.JPG View Quote Enjoy. -RZR 1000xp owner. |
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Originally Posted By LexDiamonds: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/88457/00i0i_gBnSYqKph8W_0CI0t2_1200x900_jpg-3207993.JPG View Quote Congrats. Nice looking machine. Add lights for sure. A particle separator will pay for itself (eliminates the need to constantly replace air filters) and is easy to install. S&B makes a good one. They look cool too: Attached File |
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Then there came from hunting, the weather-eyed shooter.
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Endeavor to Persevere
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Heated seats aren’t too expensive and easy to install.
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Then there came from hunting, the weather-eyed shooter.
ARFCOM Callsign: Varmint |
Retired and spending Millennial/Zoomer money
ID, USA
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Originally Posted By LexDiamonds: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/88457/00i0i_gBnSYqKph8W_0CI0t2_1200x900_jpg-3207993.JPG View Quote Trail Edition, awesome. Mine's still stock. I will be installing some lights and a Boss sound bar in the near future. |
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." - Margaret Thatcher
“We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.” - Benjamin Franklin |
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Then there came from hunting, the weather-eyed shooter.
ARFCOM Callsign: Varmint |
Originally Posted By Lungbuster: Heated seats aren't too expensive and easy to install. View Quote You also need some soft upper door covers OP. Also, if you don't want to go crazy on sound you can go cheap/ghetto like I did..LOL. A quick release fire extinguisher mount and a JBL bluetooth speaker. Works fine for us. Attached File |
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RZR has a superb ride but driving low speeds shortens belt life. Carry a spare belt and tools.
Reliable = Honda or other Japanese. Honda Talon X series use a DCT dual clutch transmission, not a pull belt CVT transmission. Pull belt CVT transmissions need work to keep running, not difficult or expensive, just need it. Honda cars use a push belt CVT, the belt is made of steel parts, it works well and lasts. |
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Originally Posted By Firespecialist: Polaris is known for catching fire. I had a Can Am Maverick X3 XDS (64” model). Loved it, lots of fun and the 64” width allowed me to get into some tight trails but still would rather have the 72” wide model. Can Ams are also are almost unbearable in the cab with the clutch noise. They are loud. Haven’t rode in a new one but supposedly they are a lot quieter. Turbo models make me giggle…but can be a lot to handle on trails and when crawling. Kawasaki is making waves in the sport SxS world even though underpowered. They are getting popular with the crawling crowd as they have a phenomenal suspension and are a hell of a lot cheaper to get into. They just lack aftermarket support but it’ll come around. Stay away from Hondas and Yamahas, IMO. Shock Therapy on YouTube has some great videos that go in depth on each manufacturer’s suspension. View Quote Kawasaki sound good, thanks. |
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Yeah, tunes is an interesting one. This machine has nothing as it sits. I was all about the Kawa touch screen and sides/sub but then the dealership guy was like "If you think you are going to be tooling around at 40mph and have HQ sound, I have news for you". I have been brewing on this and not sure really where to go. I like that JBL soundbar in the quick release fire extinguisher mount idea.
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Also, I have been told by the GF that whips are a necessary add-on. My understanding is that the mounts and electrical are built in from the factory. What is a good brand? I can see some practical purpose from a visibility perspective I guess.
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Originally Posted By LexDiamonds: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/88457/00i0i_gBnSYqKph8W_0CI0t2_1200x900_jpg-3207993.JPG View Quote 1. The thickest skid plate you can find. The stock one isn't all that protective under the Engine/Trans and will bend at least look like the next rock you hit is going to send it right through the transmission. My buddies KRX (He drives it like a rock bouncer) eventually was bent up enough everything was rubbing, so we cut all the OE stuff out, welded in square tubing for cross members and used 3/16" AR400 plating for his replacement skid plate. His dad's KRX (that doesn't get driven near as hard) still had bent cross members and the skid was pushing up towards the trans. We pulled it back best we could and he went to a 1/2" thick plastic under the whole machine. 2. If you drive trails at night, A pillar lights angled out ~45 degrees. These help greatly as ditch lights and not leaving you blind around corners. And a 2nd set or small light bar for backup lights. Baja Designs Squadren Pro's are a solid choice here. Diode Dynamics would be my second choice. These are also great if you're behind someone, as they aren't blasting light into the mirrors of the guy in front of you all the time. 3. Again, if you're a night rider... A light bar, and not the one you have since you have a windshield (too much glare). I'll see if I can find a picture of the one I mounted for my friend. Baja Designs Onyx 6. 4. A hitch 5. Harnesses The retractable ones are pretty comfortable. |
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Originally Posted By LexDiamonds: Bumping for must have UTV/SXS accessories. View Quote Attached File |
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Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII:
bruh. 87% of Gee Dee couldn't get laid in a Thai brothel with a black AMEX and a kilo of the finest blow on the planet. |
Originally Posted By LexDiamonds: Yeah, tunes is an interesting one. This machine has nothing as it sits. I was all about the Kawa touch screen and sides/sub but then the dealership guy was like "If you think you are going to be tooling around at 40mph and have HQ sound, I have news for you". I have been brewing on this and not sure really where to go. I like that JBL soundbar in the quick release fire extinguisher mount idea. View Quote And no way in hell will I do whip lights. I'm not a fan but to each their own. I'll do a red/blue chase light instead. |
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Bump to keep the discussion going.
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I'd be way more interested in a UTV if they looked cooler instead of like dune buggies with Down's syndrome
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"Beware the fury of a patient man" - John Dryden
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