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Posted: 4/28/2024 10:16:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zeekh: How many of those are Repuvlican dominated? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zeekh: Originally Posted By SWIRE: Poverty rate by county. https://external-preview.redd.it/gwE3jHI3zsdaJ73ILsaZMbgVMMWqj8G21IU_akacqkI.png?auto=webp&s=716d26e470dfc136c69f421f231bfc62caa52226 How many of those are Repuvlican dominated? The states with the darkest shade/worst poverty are all Republican dominated. LA, AR, MS, AL, GA, SC, KY, and WV. SD is high due to the Indian reservations. The border of TX is high for a reason. Remember the map is by county and not number of people. It would take a dozen or more counties added together in other states to get even close to the welfare numbers of a city like Detroit. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 10:26:33 PM EDT
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Gas stations and supermarkets.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 10:29:25 PM EDT
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IIRC, Jesus said the poor will always be among us.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 12:04:33 AM EDT
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I've done volunteer work in the poor communities in my region. "Poor" is an inherited/learned mindset. People have no concept of any other way of being. Then there's the inherited/learned cycle of ignorance & no education. It's tough to out-function your parents, and "programs" make it so they don't even have to try. Survival is a great motivator, and that's been taken care of.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 12:07:07 AM EDT
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Because entitlements don’t work, just like foreign aid doesn’t work.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 12:38:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By madmacs69: Because they keep voting democrat instead of small government. Yep. |
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JPN
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Posted: 4/29/2024 2:25:18 AM EDT
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There are generational poor who have never seen an example of how to be anything else. And those generally live in communities which are run by politicians and community organizers who are financially motivated to maintain the status quo rather than really make a change.
And then there are people who might have been lucky enough to have an income but never learned (or developed the discipline) to save and get ahead. I have a sister like this. Luckily for her she married a computer geek who never progressed above a 14 year-old's social skills so he would never consider being with aybody else but her. He started out as a COBOL and Pasqual progammer and kept up with all the tech changes along the way. So there was always an income but never more than what they have left from the last paycheck. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 8:58:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paul: @Ranxerox911 Cite? I'd love to see your source document on that please. I'll add it to my collection. Thank you.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paul: Originally Posted By Ranxerox911: Because with the government, greater than 90 cents of every dollar goes to "administrative costs", not to the stated task. Not that it would help if the percentages were better; giving poor people money just doesn't solve poverty. @Ranxerox911 Cite? I'd love to see your source document on that please. I'll add it to my collection. Thank you. Oops...busted.  I'm afraid that is some bombastic hyperbole on my part, based on the United Way's IRS Form 990, and my 30-odd years of government contracting.The United Way claims in its annual report that only 5% of donated money is used for overhead costs, but examining the Form 990 reported to the IRS, that percentage is closer to 52%. The remaining 48% is given to other local community organizations (not directly to communities) which have their own administrative costs, etc. further watering down the amount given directly to a cause. That the United Way intentionally lies about the distribution of funds leads me to believe that the numbers are even worse than the reported Form 990, cleverly disguised by misleading accounting definitions. Unfortunately, I don't have a credible cite you can reference for your list - if I come across one, I'll send it your way. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 9:07:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ranxerox911: Oops...busted. I'm afraid that is some bombastic hyperbole on my part, based on the United Way's IRS Form 990, and my 30-odd years of government contracting.The United Way claims in its annual report that only 5% of donated money is used for overhead costs, but examining the Form 990 reported to the IRS, that percentage is closer to 52%. The remaining 48% is given to other local community organizations (not directly to communities) which have their own administrative costs, etc. further watering down the amount given directly to a cause. That the United Way intentionally lies about the distribution of funds leads me to believe that the numbers are even worse than the reported Form 990, cleverly disguised by misleading accounting definitions. Unfortunately, I don't have a credible cite you can reference for your list - if I come across one, I'll send it your way. Thanks. We spend about a trillion dot two a year on welfare, Biden is attempting to more than double that with expansions to some of the 80 welfare programs currently in use, and we have another 11-million Americans on welfare and nearly 7-million more on Obamacare than when Biden was elected. It's a massive wealth transfer that's not going away. Once money is given to a welfare program there is never any clawing of it back. House Budget Observations |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 9:08:06 AM EDT
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I don't look to the government to fix my financial worries. I will take my monthly Social Maturity check, but that was my money to begin with. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:08:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:09:39 AM EDT
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Tax money spent on poor people is not for poor people. The government doesn’t do anything for poor people. Subsidized housing, and other benefits that are extensively for the poor are just a creative way to direct taxpayer funds to the rich people who provide the services in question.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:16:32 AM EDT
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Rich people stay rich by acting poor. Poor people stay poor because they try to act rich
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:17:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seabee_Mech: We have some of the richest poor people in the world, that have luxuries like cable TV, cell phones, get "free" food and regularly buy stuff like scratchers and alcohol. Venture out in the world to see real poor. Oh man...nail--->head. There are no poor people in the United States. Go to other countries to see the truly needy, truly poor, impoverished people. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:23:09 AM EDT
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Because they are dumb, lazy, and/or morally corrupt or sociopaths (notice how poor people behave in public).
Thanks to government subsidies, American poor people live better lifestyles than rich people in India. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:25:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms: Figure on average, one half TRILLION dollars per year spent on various aid to the poor programs in America, since LBJ left office. Something like $2.75 trillion if my numbers are correct. Why dey be po' folks nowadays? Somting's rong. All the money in the world can't fix poor life choices and bad spending habits. There is a reason most of the people who get a new house, or free home makeover because they are "poor" are back in the same spot in a few years. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:42:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bondo: Rich people stay rich by acting poor. Poor people stay poor because they try to act rich Spot on. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:44:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey: laziness and poor life decisions This is the correct answer ^^^ |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:48:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWIRE: The states with the darkest shade/worst poverty are all Republican dominated. LA, AR, MS, AL, GA, SC, KY, and WV. SD is high due to the Indian reservations. The border of TX is high for a reason. Remember the map is by county and not number of people. It would take a dozen or more counties added together in other states to get even close to the welfare numbers of a city like Detroit. Mississippi has the highest percentage of blacks of any state. 40 per cent. Most of them in Benny Thompson's (D) district. Guess where all the poverty is and where all that federal welfare money goes? . |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:50:30 AM EDT
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They've been targeted by enough lottery commercials to believe that's their pathway to wealth.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 10:55:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ClusterNukes: I don't look to the government to fix my financial worries. I will take my monthly Social Maturity check, but that was my money to begin with. As soon as you get done collecting all the money you paid into SSI, plus interest, we will expect you to Stop collecting. Because every cent after that, is WELFARE, pure and simple. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:08:24 AM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:09:47 AM EDT
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There are no poor people, just lazy and stupid people.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:13:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dropdbombnow: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/16397/PSA-3197430-3201187.jpg  |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:15:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By California_Kid: 75-inch TVs, brand-new iPhones, and "spinner" wheel covers on their Cadillac Escalades. Ah to have grown up to see the rise and fall of spinners. 
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:17:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Palm]
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I am sorry; but food stamps was the worst idea of the last century. I am okay with basic commodities as subsistence rations for the poor. That means flower, rice, beans, sugar, and dried meat or canned meat in quantities designed to support minimal life.
There must be an incentive to support yourself. The fallacy that the government can support people in a fashion that they can be accused to is cruel. Public assistance should be directed towards becoming a path to self support. The “social safety net” in America has become a “social snare net” in the United States. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:21:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bondo: Rich people stay rich by acting poor. Poor people stay poor because they try to act rich This is so true. Always live well below your means. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:27:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeSSS: The poor are needed to justify social services programs tagged to the poor. Social services programs exist to return a small fraction of government spending on these programs to the political class. Spending goes to poverty vendors who kick back support and donations to the political industry. Other spending, that goes directly to the poor, is taken back by vendors of poverty drugs, poverty alcohol, poverty tobacco, poverty housing, etc. A fraction of that spending goes back to the political industry. More poor => more poverty services spending => more dollars to poverty vendors => more kick back money to the political industry. Lets not forget that everybody enrolled in social services will be registered to vote, will have a mail in ballot/ballots printed for them, will have that ballot or ballots marked for Leftist candidates and will have those ballots voted. So, the poor are not just slaves on the poverty plantation, they are also cash cows on the poverty ranch. Oops, almost forgot, homeless poor can be moved around to tank property values so property can be bought for pennies on the dollar and then redeveloped after poor are moved out. Redeveloped at very large profit, some of which is kicked back to the political industry. These are some of the ways that Socialism, Communism, Fascism, Green, Liberal, Progressive, etc. work. From the many everything, to the few everything. It's a business plan that works, and a very popular one too. Guess which political party owns the poverty slaves? Guess which party owns the cash cows? Anyone? Anyone? Lot of truth right here. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:39:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mike_314: Some people just aren't very bright or motivated. Both keep people from working their way up. Some people are raised in the welfare environment are happy with .gov handouts. The do have a job, every first Tuesday in November to make sure the .gov gravy train keeps rolling. Ages ago Louis Rukeyser said things started going to hell when welfare started competing with entry level jobs. Some people make a decent buck but are foolish with money. And some have some bad breaks or do drugs and make their own bad breaks. So I doubt there's any single answer. For the inevitable 'what to do about it' question, opportunity and expanding economy do far more to alleviate poverty than subsidizing the poor and thus buying more poverty. The best welfare program is a job. Thomas Sowell said to avoid poverty, graduate high school, get a job, and get married before having children. Almost no one who does all three is in poverty. Your last paragraph... I've repeated that saying by Sowell a handful of times, and it can arouse quite a bit of indignation among people that obviously lean left. They get very offended. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:41:24 AM EDT
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mathematically there will also be poor people regardless of average income...as there will always be people who are at the bottom
The big issue is the spread between the top and the bottom. One of the biggest head winds to poors getting ahead is your health insurance being tied to your job or eligibility and benefits tied to your income. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 11:44:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joker117: Being poor is like being stupid. You can't fix it no matter how much money you throw at it. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 12:05:06 PM EDT
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Because a good chunk of the population lacks a motivation to succeed. Success used to be rewarded and encouraged. Now it's portrayed as monopolizing wealth that should have gone to others. A lot of people are happy to just exist at a basic level and dint strive for anything beyond that. If their basic needs are met then they are satisfied.That doesn't address the people who are under the radar as far as official wealth and on paper look like they're poor
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Posted: 4/29/2024 6:16:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dropdbombnow: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/16397/PSA-3197430-3201187.jpg And primary Arms And Euro optic Then there's ammo. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 6:19:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bondo: Rich people stay rich by acting poor. Poor people stay poor because they try to act rich A lot of truth in this |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 6:44:04 PM EDT
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The government housing here takes almost 3/4 to a whole paycheck each month. Even when they earn a decent wage they get fucked.
The housing was suppose to be way for people to save up to be able to buy a house. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 7:13:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akcaribouhunter: The government housing here takes almost 3/4 to a whole paycheck each month. Even when they earn a decent wage they get fucked. The housing was suppose to be way for people to save up to be able to buy a house. I would bet that the people who did the calculations to show how much rent to charge in order for people to be able to save for a house were community organizers and politicians who had never worked a day in their lives. |
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