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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:46:15 AM EDT
Said it's engineered to do that and is perfectly normal. A big NOPE for me.
Balcony shakes at Fox Theatre during concert performance VIDEO: Fox Theatre balcony seen bouncing at Gunna concert; is that normal? |
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yikes, was just there the other week to see Tom Segura. Nobody was dancing around though.
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Runcible- "Folks here post video of shit that hasn't even happened yet, for Christ's sake."
Berzerker77- "Your post was full of you being a bitch. Stop it, just fucking stop it" |
Detroit's Fox Theater is an awesome venue. The architecture is this amazing 1920's Oriental style. Really really cool inside.
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Prohibition doesn't work.
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When it falls, will hear that wasn't supposed to happen...
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Awww Hell Nooo!!!
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R.F.K. Stadium during Dallas Week...
been there, done that! |
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Alea iacta est
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Originally Posted By realwar: Said it's engineered to do that and is perfectly normal. A big NOPE for me. View Quote If it doesn’t bend, it breaks. |
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Always funny seeing older white female news reporters talking about rappers and the people attending their concerts as if they're anything other than a bunch of degenerates
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Fatties doing fattie stuff?
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America did not become a superpower by working from home or from a cubicle.
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Nope.
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I have never needed to do an engineering inspection of a balcony for audience movement. But I bet that show made enough money on concessions alone to cover the cost.
Fun fact: when Camp Randall Stadium was renovated several years ago, they had to do engineering studies to ensure proper safety margin for many thousands of fans jumping around. More engineering details than you wanted to know. |
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Capacity is a thing for a reason...........
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"Because free men will never consent to give up the means of defending their liberties."
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Hope they learned better engineering from this previous event. Have been over this a few times from interior search and rescue training.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse. And how close was this to failure? https://www.sfgate.com/local-donotuse/article/golden-gate-bridge-walk-1987-anniversary-disaster-13896571.php |
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: I have never needed to do an engineering inspection of a balcony for audience movement. But I bet that show made enough money on concessions alone to cover the cost. Fun fact: when Camp Randall Stadium was renovated several years ago, they had to do engineering studies to ensure proper safety margin for many thousands of fans. More engineering details than you wanted to know. View Quote “Journal of sound and vibration” Nice. |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse
Fast-Tracked Failure: The Hyatt Regency Walkway Collapse |
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During Black 47 shows at the old Paddy Reilly's in Manhattan, the place would be so packed you could barely move.
When the crowd started to pogo, you could feel the floor rolling like the ocean, which I guarantee it was NOT meant to do. |
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Originally Posted By JimEb: If it doesn’t bend, it breaks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JimEb: Originally Posted By realwar: Said it's engineered to do that and is perfectly normal. A big NOPE for me. If it doesn’t bend, it breaks. Yep, as someone who worked on alot of bridges you really get to feel how much they move up and down when your standing on one. |
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Y’all should go to a football game in Columbia. When those cock lovers start that freakin song and the towels are spinning, there is a “wave” moving through the stadium. It is disconcerting to say the least.
Plus, they add sugar to their collard greens there; it’s an abomination. |
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Happiness is the greatest agent of purification
Bikini Bottoms underneath, but the boys hearts still skip a beat, when them girls shimmy off, them old cut offs |
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You basement boomers need to get out more. It's normal folks. They are made to flex
TV cameraman stand shaking at Ibrox as Glasgow Rangers fans go crazy after beating RB Leipzig German fans had the stadium bouncing during their relegation play off |
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Nice donk.
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Originally Posted By realwar: Said it's engineered to do that and is perfectly normal. A big NOPE for me. View Quote Magic 8-ball says... "seems unlikely." Pretty sure "surviving it" isn't "designed for it". I'm going to guess it was originally designed for X people of Y weight SITTING... I'm guessing that it now has to deal with X+20% people of weight 2Y bouncing up and down. Probably the ONLY reason it hasn't fallen down yet is the Engineer used an overly conservative factor of safety. |
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Need to get some midcap women on there and put it to the real test.
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Yeah, I wouldn't want to on under that or on it.
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Originally Posted By madmacs69: Dynamic load calculations are a thing too... and if the Fox Theatre was opened in 1928, that calculation would likely have been very different. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By madmacs69: Originally Posted By AJ-IN-JAX: Capacity is a thing for a reason... Dynamic load calculations are a thing too... and if the Fox Theatre was opened in 1928, that calculation would likely have been very different. No doubt it was different when people weighed about half what they weigh now. They didn't hop up and down like they do now either. |
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Alea iacta est
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1940 Tacoma Narrows Bridge Collapse (A.K.A. Galloping Gertie) |
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It'd be a problem if it didn't flex under the load.
But yeah I still wouldn't stand under it |
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Learn to swim.
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That is why military command "route step" is a thing. Troops marching in step can break a bridge.
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America is at that awkward stage, it’s too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards....Claire Wolfe
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Frequency is a thing. There is no way the designers in the 20s anticipated this. Not a chance in hell I’d be in that place for a number of reasons.
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Originally Posted By 50-140: https://i.postimg.cc/L8QkSDgf/temp-Image6z-LBtq.avif" target="_blank">https://i.postimg.cc/L8QkSDgf/temp-Image6z-LBtq.avif View Quote Wasn't Hillsborough a crush not a stand collapse? |
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Originally Posted By madmacs69: Dynamic load calculations are a thing too... and if the Fox Theatre was opened in 1928, that calculation would likely have been very different. View Quote I read once the C-47 was designed before computers so they overengineered it. But I wouldn't bet on the Fox Theatre if I was in the balcony. People have gained 40 or 50 pounds over the years. |
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No from me dawg.
Anything in downtown Detroit should be assumed to have at least 60 years of neglect if you want to be on the safe side. Probably the saddest example of "White flight" that I know of. Most of the architecture and the city's structure itself are really beautiful. Now a lot of it is just macabre. |
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Originally Posted By madmacs69: Dynamic load calculations are a thing too... and if the Fox Theatre was opened in 1928, that calculation would likely have been very different. View Quote The mass of the average concertgoer certainly has changed. Elastic deformation vs plastic. Everything deforms. Attached File |
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Went to a couple of parties at this apartment in my younger days. I remember feeling the floor give when there was people packed in the apartment. I noped the hell out of there. This happened 7 years later.
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/tarrant-county/apartment-floor-collapses-during-student-party-in-denton/287-491246783 |
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Originally Posted By madmacs69: Dynamic load calculations are a thing too... and if the Fox Theatre was opened in 1928, that calculation would likely have been very different. View Quote Yep, just looked it up. The average American woman has gone from 140 to 166 pounds just since 1960. Men have gone from 168 to 195. I'd be really curious to know if the capacity limit for that balcony has been updated to reflect the change since 1928. It may safely hold that much weight static, but those oscillations... I had to cross the rebuilt version of Gertie twice a day for six years. Never did get comfortable with going across in a gale. Also always believed the dog left in the car didn't make it. A crazy doctor went out and rescued it. Extended version with rescue...collapse starts at 3:19. Tacoma Narrows Bridge Collapse "Gallopin' Gertie" |
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"Cease quoting laws to us who have swords"
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It would be pretty disappointing to die at a rap concert due to structural failure rather than the much celebrated gang style shooting.
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Originally Posted By bikedamon: Detroit's Fox Theater is an awesome venue. The architecture is this amazing 1920's Oriental style. Really really cool inside. View Quote I've been to a dozen or more shows there. Ron White was one of those shows and the acoustics up on that balcony were so bad that you couldn't understand a damn thing he said. I just drank beer instead. The detail and architecture is indeed amazing. |
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Nope. I recall being at a local bar/pub that was in an old house on campus about 15 yrs ago. Bar on main floor and bar on top floor. During cardinals or chiefs games the floor would move. Made me very very uncomfortable.
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10% for the BIG GUY
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Created with 150lb person for load calcs vs 2024 reality of 250lb people?
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Don’t break my beloved Fox theater!
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Originally Posted By wmagrush: Hope they learned better engineering from this previous event. Have been over this a few times from interior search and rescue training. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse. And how close was this to failure? https://www.sfgate.com/local-donotuse/article/golden-gate-bridge-walk-1987-anniversary-disaster-13896571.php View Quote Attached File 300,000 people crowd Golden Gate Bridge for 50th anniversary in 1987 |
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Cain's ballroom in Tulsa was always a fun dance party. People said there were springs under the floor, but I always heard it was just designed to have some bounce.
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This isn’t new. Always has as long as I’ve gone to the Fox.
Stand on an overpass and feel it bounce. If you’re SE MI, stand on the upper levels of Somerset mall. Just the foot traffic will bounce the floor. |
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I saw The Rugrats Live there back in the ‘90s. Probably a bit safer since the audience was 1/3-2/3 kids
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Originally Posted By triburst1:
I just assumed it was an FBI or ATF surveillance op. Now I'm worried that it might be site staff. |
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