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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:13:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: firedog51d]
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:14:32 PM EDT
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OP is correct.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:14:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mancat]
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Fantastic amount of legroom for malnourished 15 year old Slavs
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:19:03 PM EDT
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That is not a T-34
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:21:51 PM EDT
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Sleazy 8 was better but we probably didn't hand those out.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:23:09 PM EDT
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Always remember how we gave the Russians lend lease equipment to survive and they turned on us anyway.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:35:30 PM EDT
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Especially when powered by a Ford GAA V8!
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:36:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankDrebin: That is not a T-34 |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:39:03 PM EDT
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That's not a Panther
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:41:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gtsteve03: That's not a Panther |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:42:05 PM EDT
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In before Zippo, 75mm was useless, and other great historical tall tales.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 8:50:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chukar: Especially when powered by a Ford GAA V8! An Arfcom gentleman recommended a great reference book to me, "Sherman Tanks Of The Red Army" by Peter Samsonov. We gave the Reds over 4000 M4A2's, the GM 6046 diesel variant. The later 76mm variants were especially popular. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:03:11 PM EDT
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Great timing OP, that same Sherman is currently at depot maintenance for a lube job and fresh coat of green paint before being shipped to the Ukrainian front next week.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:04:52 PM EDT
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Also…
The state of that cable on the front of the vehicle suggests the Red Army had a serious deficiency of sergeant majors at the time of that photo. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:09:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankDrebin: That is not a T-34 Is a POS, its best quality was it was easy to build and many built. Quantity has a quality of its own as they say. There is just one metal piece per track link keeping the whole track on. A metal wedge pushed the track back as it traversed. Tranny was more cranky than a tranny called by a wrong pronoun. Many more suckages. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:11:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bigger_Hammer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chukar: Especially when powered by a Ford GAA V8! Lend Lease Russian Sherman's were the diesel versions. Also sent diesel powered Sherman's to the USMC. Bigger_Hammer 
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:13:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FightingHellfish: Great timing OP, that same Sherman is currently at depot maintenance for a lube job and fresh coat of green paint before being shipped to the Ukrainian front next week. This may not be far from the truth. When they run out of T54/55s for mobile pillboxes, I wonder which T-34 variant is next up. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:16:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chukar: Especially when powered by a Ford GAA V8! Russkie Shermans were equipped with diesel engines. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:20:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bigger_Hammer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wolfy42: Is a POS, its best quality was it was easy to build and many built. Quantity has a quality of its own as they say. There is just one metal piece per track link keeping the whole track on. A metal wedge pushed the track back as it traversed. Tranny was more cranky than a tranny called by a wrong pronoun. Many more suckages. The steel wedge welded to the T-34 hull to drive in the loose track pins as they passed over the wedge on each side, caused the classic clack clack clack of the Russian track. Crude but it worked cheap & quick. Bigger_Hammer
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:20:45 PM EDT
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Didn't expect this when opening this thread.
OP is correct. Well played. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:21:44 PM EDT
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 Footage of T-59 Tank |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:22:18 PM EDT
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FWIW - Those Ukrainian salt mines where almost all of the "Russian capture" Mauser rifles and many other ComBloc/Russian guns were exported from? Recent pictures showed crate after crate of Thompson SMGs.
Each Sherman sent to USSR had three Thompsons on board. Removed and replaced with Soviet SMGs as no other gun in their inventory used the .45 cartridge. The mines have changed hands at least twice in the current conflict and again the Thompsons went unused due to lack of correct ammo. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:24:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Papaw: An Arfcom gentleman recommended a great reference book to me, "Sherman Tanks Of The Red Army" by Peter Samsonov. We gave the Reds over 4000 M4A2's, the GM 6046 diesel variant. The later 76mm variants were especially popular. Off to find and order that book... |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:25:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UtahShotgunner: FWIW - Those Ukrainian salt mines where almost all of the "Russian capture" Mauser rifles and many other ComBloc/Russian guns were exported from? Recent pictures showed crate after crate of Thompson SMGs. Each Sherman sent to USSR had three Thompsons on board. Removed and replaced with Soviet SMGs as no other gun in their inventory used the .45 cartridge. The mines have changed hands at least twice in the current conflict and again the Thompsons went unused due to lack of correct ammo. Also didnt help they were heavy as shit and temperamental in freezing and muddy conditions. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:25:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bigger_Hammer]
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The Russians did not like the earlier Grant tanks provided.
Huge height (easy target) + very limited traverse of the 75mm gun, next to worthless 37mm anti-tank gun up top + narrow tracks lacking mobility in snow or mud + riveted construction (rivets spalling in the interior) were not a winning combination in Russia. The Russians nicknames them. "Grave of Seven Brothers"  Bigger_Hammer
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:28:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wolfy42: Is a POS, its best quality was it was easy to build and many built. Quantity has a quality of its own as they say. There is just one metal piece per track link keeping the whole track on. A metal wedge pushed the track back as it traversed. Tranny was more cranky than a tranny called by a wrong pronoun. Many more suckages. the T34 was not a cheap to build tank. it was an expensive tank that was built inexpensively by cutting corners. taking out all rubber, heat treating everything incorrectly. spalling and tranny breaks, and horribly uncomfortable tankers sitting on apple boxes. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:32:33 PM EDT
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But that’s not a Stuart, lol. Sorry, M-3/M-5s were always my favorite WW2 tanks. Read to much Haunted Tank comics and Brazen Chariots.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:33:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UtahShotgunner: FWIW - Those Ukrainian salt mines where almost all of the "Russian capture" Mauser rifles and many other ComBloc/Russian guns were exported from? Recent pictures showed crate after crate of Thompson SMGs. Each Sherman sent to USSR had three Thompsons on board. Removed and replaced with Soviet SMGs as no other gun in their inventory used the .45 cartridge. The mines have changed hands at least twice in the current conflict and again the Thompsons went unused due to lack of correct ammo. I've been to that salt mine near Soledar, Ukraine. I used to work at Tenn Guns Int'l for a few years. Went to inspect M91/30's for import. The stuff in that mine was awesome. It was like a WW2 museum. Each time we bought 10k-15k 91/30's, we bought 5.5 million rds of 54r. Then we were allowed to buy 5,000 k98's. The German stuff in storage there a gun enthusiasts wet dream. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:36:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jason280: Off to find and order that book... Found it used on Amazon for $14. Ordered. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:38:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crusaderf8u: But that’s not a Stuart, lol. Sorry, M-3/M-5s were always my favorite WW2 tanks. Read to much Haunted Tank comics and Brazen Chariots. Wow. Haven't heard of The Haunted Tank comic in years. It was my favorite for a really long time. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:38:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50cal: I've been to that salt mine near Soledar, Ukraine. I used to work at Tenn Guns Int'l for a few years. Went to inspect M91/30's for import. The stuff in that mine was awesome. It was like a WW2 museum. Each time we bought 10k-15k 91/30's, we bought 5.5 million rds of 54r. Then we were allowed to buy 5,000 k98's. The German stuff in storage there a gun enthusiasts wet dream. What was the unit price at that point? |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:40:27 PM EDT
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What gun is does that one have?
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:43:05 PM EDT
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Not sure about them tanks but the Ruskies said they would of never took Stalingrad without Merican spam!
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:43:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crusaderf8u: But that's not a Stuart, lol. Sorry, M-3/M-5s were always my favorite WW2 tanks. Read to much Haunted Tank comics and Brazen Chariots.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:44:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By firedog51d: I said best tank, not a pile of commie propaganda.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:44:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FightingHellfish: What was the unit price at that point? Arsenal rebuild 91/30's were about $18.00. Century was buying the battlefield pick ups at around $10 I think it was. The 54r I seem to remember came up to be about 2 cents per round. The k98's were around $50 or so. May have been a little bit more. Employee prices were the landed to our dock price, that was all the import documentation and customs inspections plus 12% I think it was plus background check and Tenn taxes. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:45:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stoner63a]
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Because it also came with 2 M1 Thompson .45ACP SMGs?
Or it ran better than the T-34, was built better than the T-34 and didn't require the driver using an engineer's hammer to change gears?  The T-34 is not as good as you think it is |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:47:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:50:28 PM EDT
[#38]
The elite Soviet units assaulting Berlin used both Shermans and T-34's
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:56:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:58:01 PM EDT
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OP Is correct.
Bravo. The sherman was the best tank of WW2. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:58:11 PM EDT
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Sometimes it's better to leave them wondering OP. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:59:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By firedog51d: No. The transmission works on the Sherman. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By firedog51d: Originally Posted By gtsteve03: That's not a Panther The Panther Ausf G with the chinned mantlet was a good tank................the Panther II would have been a tough one as well |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:02:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: The elite Soviet units assaulting Berlin used both Shermans and T-34's https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/D93FD611-6B4E-461B-9B6B-F88C720A365F_jpe-3207551.JPG (and IS-2's etc) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/DCC7F7E4-856C-4050-8C72-07C4AC8A668B_jpe-3207548.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/F8493DCB-856B-48E5-9FB1-91E100854D18_jpe-3207550.JPG Damn, that last picture 
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ND, USA
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:03:45 PM EDT
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Shermans vs Tigers. Oh no!!!
Shermans vs machine gun nests. For the win. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:07:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50cal: Arsenal rebuild 91/30's were about $18.00. Century was buying the battlefield pick ups at around $10 I think it was. The 54r I seem to remember came up to be about 2 cents per round. The k98's were around $50 or so. May have been a little bit more. Employee prices were the landed to our dock price, that was all the import documentation and customs inspections plus 12% I think it was plus background check and Tenn taxes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50cal: Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: What was the unit price at that point? Arsenal rebuild 91/30's were about $18.00. Century was buying the battlefield pick ups at around $10 I think it was. The 54r I seem to remember came up to be about 2 cents per round. The k98's were around $50 or so. May have been a little bit more. Employee prices were the landed to our dock price, that was all the import documentation and customs inspections plus 12% I think it was plus background check and Tenn taxes. Those were the Salad days..I remember them well. WTH didn’t you buy those Thompsons when you had the chance? |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:10:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Those were the Salad days..I remember them well. WTH didn’t you buy those Thompsons when you had the chance? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BillofRights: Originally Posted By 50cal: Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: What was the unit price at that point? Arsenal rebuild 91/30's were about $18.00. Century was buying the battlefield pick ups at around $10 I think it was. The 54r I seem to remember came up to be about 2 cents per round. The k98's were around $50 or so. May have been a little bit more. Employee prices were the landed to our dock price, that was all the import documentation and customs inspections plus 12% I think it was plus background check and Tenn taxes. Those were the Salad days..I remember them well. WTH didn’t you buy those Thompsons when you had the chance? Or some Winchester 1895R rifles |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:12:54 PM EDT
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 Myths of American Armor. TankFest Northwest 2015 |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:13:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: The Panther Ausf G with the chinned mantlet was a good tank................the Panther II would have been a tough one as well Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: Originally Posted By firedog51d: Originally Posted By gtsteve03: That's not a Panther The Panther Ausf G with the chinned mantlet was a good tank................the Panther II would have been a tough one as well |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:21:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By firedog51d: Yeah....Panther would have been better if Hitler had not added 10 tons of armor. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By firedog51d: Originally Posted By cyclone: Originally Posted By firedog51d: Originally Posted By gtsteve03: That's not a Panther The Panther Ausf G with the chinned mantlet was a good tank................the Panther II would have been a tough one as well Panther (a supposed medium tank to replace the Panzer IV) weighted almost as much as the US M-26 Pershing heavy tank. Panthers suffered throughout their careers from weak drivetrain with transmission & differential failures causing many Panther loses (destroyed by crews when they could not be recovered). Excellent very high velocity 75mm gun & German optics made the Panther deadly at distance. Bigger_Hammer |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 10:22:45 PM EDT
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