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Posted: 5/1/2005 10:59:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mbsk01]
BASIC AK INFO
Q: Is my gas piston supposed to wobble? Yes Q: Why is there a gap between the rear of my rifle and the buttstock? That's the way it's supposed to be Q: What's wrong with my 'bolt hold open'? Nothing, AKs don't have one. Exceptions being some Saiga rifles, and Yugoslavian magazines (which have a bolt catch built into the mag) Q: Can I install a 'bolt hold open'? Yes, it will require some work. Typically, they will all be manually activated. Choices are typically the Saiga-type and the modified safety type. www.geocities.com/akcatch/ Q: How do I remove the upper handguard? www.ak47.net/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=93&t=68973 Q: How do I assemble my underfolder? home.earthlink.net/~mwsjb/AKbuild3.htm Q: Who builds AKs? AK-USA AZ Expert Arms Blackwell Industries Coyote Gulch Armory CMP Armory Elite Firearms The Firing Line Global Military Gunsmithing InRange Investment Grade Firearms Krebs Custom Marshall Arms Missouri Custom Armament Piece of History Firearms Red Stick Firearms Salbo Arms Sledgehammer Arms (this list is no way affliated with or endorsed by AR15.com nor any of it's affiliates) Q: What's the deal with the foreign/US parts? www.ak47.net/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=93&t=55169 Q: What's the deal with Joeken? www.ak47.net/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=93&t=69614 Q: What's the deal with Solstice Arms? www.ak47.net/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=93&t=55825 Q: Where is the link that I'd need to print the regulations regarding shipping rifles at the Post Office? www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/pubs/pub52.pdf RS39 edit- pdf pages 77-80 of 353 are the ones you care most about here, pages 63-66 of the publication Q: How do I load my drum? www.ak47.net/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=55&t=56059&page=1 Q: Why does my trigger finger hurt after shooting for a period of time? A condition known as 'trigger slap' caused by poorly fitted fire control parts. The remedy is found below. AK PARTS INFO Q: What's the thread pitch on my AK-47? 14X1mm LH Q: What's the thread pitch on my AK-74? 24X1.5mm RH (except for Romanian) 22X1.5mm RH (Romanian) Q: What's the thread pitch on my Saiga shotgun? 22X.75mm (12ga) Q: How does this shepards hook/wire (RSA retainer plate) go back in? www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/fcgremoval4.htm Q: How do I fix trigger slap? www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/slapfix.htm WHERE TO BUY AK.....? Parts and Magazines www.aa-ok.com www.armoryUSA.com AKA Global Trades www.atlanticfirearms.com www.cdnninvestments.com/ www.centerfiresystems.com www. cheaperthandirt.com ergogrips.net/ak.html www.ftfindustries.com www.gunsnstuff.com/ www.gunthings.com www.interordnance.com www.ironwooddesigns.com/ www.k-var.com www.militarygunsupply.com www.northridgeinc.com www.polytechparts.com/ www.redstararms.com/ www.riflestock.com/ www.rpbusa.com/ www.sarcoinc.com/ www.Tapco.com tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/ www.tickbitesupply.com/ak.html Optics and mounts www.freedomoptics.com/ www.ultimak.com/ LINKS TO OTHER SITES WITH MORE DETAILED INFORMATION kalashnikov.guns.ru/ tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/ www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/index.shtml Romanian rifles mywebpages.comcast.net/jfreeman246/index.htm www.chicom47.comChinese rifles forum.saiga-12.com/ Saiga www.gunsnet.net www.valmet-weapons.com/ Valmet/Galil www.frii.com/~gosplow/sks.html SKS www.simonov.net/ubertypes.htm SKS www.sksman.com SKS www.milparade.com/kalashnikov/chapter4/contents.shtml SKS www.club.guns.ru www.alpharubicon.com/leo/akseries.htm MANUFACTURERS LINKS www.arsenal-bg.com/main.htm www.Arsenalinc.com www.izhmash.ru/eng/ www.molot.net/index-e.php www.ohiorapidfire.com www.zastava-arms.co.yu/english/vojni.htm LINKS TO ARTICLES www.alpharubicon.com/leo/akseries.htm Excerpt from Survival magazine smallarmsreview.com/june.htm Small Arms Review article about magazines www.arsenalinc.com/BulgarianAK.pdf Shotgun News article about Arsenal Inc AKs |
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Nice work, thank you.
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Thank you for an extremely helpful post Mbsk01 !
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thank........
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3-Gun Master Shooter
Action Shooting Supply www.ActionShooterz.com |
Yep, awsome job Brian.
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"One day we will all learn that cool guy gear does not a shooter make"......Pat Rogers
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1st time I have seen this. Most excellent post! Good job Brian!
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Автоматы Калашникова
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this thread should never ever be deleted!
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what's more accurate? stamped or milled reciever?
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That's the $1,000,000 question, isn't it? |
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You're trying to get Mbsk01's thread moved to the Bear Pit, aren't you! |
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lols, seriously I'm researching dat issue. unfortunately the pubic searches here only go back 30 days. can u of u do the search for me & post the links? thanks.
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If there was a definite answer, I'd give it to you. I think the consensus is that accuarcy is more related to the quality of the rifle as a whole, not necessarily the receiver. |
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For Patty - and for my wife, who survived it, too.
MA, USA
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Somebody say A-men! I just bought my first AK (Chinese Norinco SILE pre-922r underfolder) and the info therein is INVALUABLE! Thanks again! |
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"Yeah, it's great living here. You never have to grow up here. Everything is always someone else's fault." -piccolo's sister, on life in Massachusetts
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I salute you!
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Tagged for later reference
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USMC 1976-83
Enjoy life, it can be over in the blink of an eye. |
code10.kalashnikov.guns.ru/mlist.html
Pics of AK parts markings, matched to country of origin. Thanks to Miami02TJ |
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Should be moved to the original post for noobs like me :P |
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trying to help a guy out but the parts count link is not working try this out
archive.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=93&t=55169 cut and paste from old post OK, this is probably one of THE most asked questions: What are the parts that need to be replaced to be 922r compliant? (1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings (2) Barrels (3) Mounting blocks (trunions) (4)*Muzzle attachments (5) Bolts (6) Bolt carriers (7) Gas pistons (8) Triggers (9) Hammers (10) Disconnectors (11) Buttstocks (12) Pistol grips (13) Forearm handguards (14) Magazine body (15) Followers (16) Floorplates An gun can contain no more that 10 "imported" parts. The floorplate and follower count as one part each. Both handguards count as 1 part, the pistol grip counts as 1, as well as the stock is 1. By replacing the FCG with an American made version this counts as 3 parts replacement. |
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I edit because I can't spell .............or type |
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Good info to know, thank you.
Donk |
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New to the Darkside, found this info very helpful, thanks,
RRAMAN |
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I don't profess any particular knowledge of 922r (frequent users of the board probably have a better overall understanding, in fact), but I was curious, so I did a little research. Just for reference, the list of parts necessary to comply with 18 USC 922r may be found at 22 CFR 178, conveniently set forth at:
http://www.atf.treas.gov/regulations/27cfr178.html Scroll down to Section 178.39. |
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Nice stuff...Thank you...
fred |
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"A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves . . . and include all men capable of bearing arms.
Richard H. Lee My rights are not negotiable, and I am totally unwilling to compromise when it comes to the Second Amendment |
Some of the old links don't work anymore due to AR15.com threads being archived.
Other than that, this thread is very handy! |
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Took my Vector arms AK out yesterday....first time....
180 rounds , no hiccups...FUN GUN !! fred |
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"A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves . . . and include all men capable of bearing arms.
Richard H. Lee My rights are not negotiable, and I am totally unwilling to compromise when it comes to the Second Amendment |
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i found it by accident here - thanks brian for volunteering to search - i think this is pretty important to maybe this link in the OP. http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=78&t=80299 can someone point me to the thread that had the write up on the "illegal" receivers - before i purchase, i want to make sure i don't get duped. someone did an excellent writeup that had info on the serial number range and manufacturer for reference - i just don't remember which forum it was in, and it was at least a month ago that i read it (which means my public search won't pull it)! thanks! |
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Great job.
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I can't see the older links posted in this thread.
So, what's the deal with Joeken? How about Ohio Rapid Fire? |
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What was that place that had all the Russian furnature and the deactivated AKs and everything? I think it was in England or something. I wanted to get some Russian furnature from them but I cant remember what the site was..anyone know what I'm talking about?
They had a bunch of deactivated AKs like AK74s, PKMs, GP30s, etc. It was a foreign shop because it said they couldnt be imported to the US because of the ATF. Anyone know? |
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Originally Posted By Mr_Happyface:
I'd say it'd be pretty damn irresponsible for you guys to bury yourselves with weapons. The LAST thing we need is armed zombies. That would take the fun out of the whole thing. |
www.rusmilitary.com |
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THANK YOU! Is it legal to have them ship furnature/slings/30 round mags to the US? I'd like to pick up some Russian pistol grips, one of their Russian slings, and maybe a bakelite 7.62x39 or slabside mag... |
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Originally Posted By Mr_Happyface:
I'd say it'd be pretty damn irresponsible for you guys to bury yourselves with weapons. The LAST thing we need is armed zombies. That would take the fun out of the whole thing. |
Yes, as long as the declared value is <$100. |
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So I've gotta order over $100 of stuff or they cant ship? And THEN get hit with shipping? Dang |
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Originally Posted By Mr_Happyface:
I'd say it'd be pretty damn irresponsible for you guys to bury yourselves with weapons. The LAST thing we need is armed zombies. That would take the fun out of the whole thing. |
No, the declared value must be LESS than $100. |
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Can anyone update the links to reflect the archived pages? Looks like a lot of good information, and don't want to post a bunch of dumb questions in the main forum if the info is archived some place else.
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The problem is regular members being able to access the archived threads.
What info were you looking for and I'll see if I can find it. |
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Thanks from a "newbie", very informative Post.
p.s. what is a "spud"? |
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Why the difference in parts lists? 1: From TITLE 27--ALCOHOL, TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND FIREARMS (c) For purposes of this section, the term imported parts are: (1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings (2) Barrels (3) Barrel extensions (4) Mounting blocks (trunions) (5) Muzzle attachments (6) Bolts (7) Bolt carriers (8) Operating rods (9) Gas pistons (10) Trigger housings (11) Triggers (12) Hammers (13) Sears (14) Disconnectors (15) Buttstocks (16) Pistol grips (17) Forearms, handguards (18) Magazine bodies (19) Followers (20) Floorplates 2: Arfcom archives, Jeepcreep [Site Staff]: parts that need to be replaced to be 922r compliant OK, this is probably one of THE most asked questions: What are the parts that need to be replaced to be 922r compliant? (1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings (2) Barrels (3) Mounting blocks (trunions) (4)*Muzzle attachments (5) Bolts (6) Bolt carriers (7) Gas pistons (8) Triggers (9) Hammers (10) Disconnectors (11) Buttstocks (12) Pistol grips (13) Forearm handguards (14) Magazine body (15) Followers (16) Floorplates An gun can contain no more that 10 "imported" parts. The floorplate and follower count as one part each. Both handguards count as 1 part, the pistol grip counts as 1, as well as the stock is 1. By replacing the FCG with an American made version this counts as 3 parts replacement. 3: AK47 Parts Breakdown and Review |
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Found another one:
AK U.S. Parts Count for 922r Compliance, theakforum.net, Moderator Kalashnikox Kalashnikox Moderator Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 134 Location: Midwest PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:45 am Post subject: AK U.S. Parts Count for 922r Compliance The 16 countable parts of an AK rifle. No more than 10 of these parts may be imported. (1) Receiver* (2) Barrel (3) Trunnion (4) Muzzle attachments(flash hiders, brakes, barrel extensions, barrel nuts)* (5) Bolt (6) Bolt carrier (7) Gas piston* (8) Trigger* (9) Hammer* (10) Disconnecter* (11) Buttstock* (12) Pistol grip* (13) Forearm handguards* (14) Magazine body (15) Follower (16) Floorplate The parts with the * are the most commonly available U.S. manufactured parts. On a typical stamped receiver rifle you need to replace 5 parts with no muzzle attachment and 6 parts with a muzzle attachment. On a typical milled recevier rifle you need to replace 4 parts with no muzzle attachment and 5 parts with a muzzle attachment, because there isn't a barrel trunion, it is part of the receiver. When building an AK pistol, these regulations do not apply. You can not have a stock or forward pistol grip on a pistol. |
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The "Link" for the FAQ "How do I remove the Upper or forward hand guards doesn't work...
So, I'll re-phrase... 1.) How does one remove remove the Forward Yugo "Krink" hand guards? 2.) Who makes a 4 piece "Shot-Glass" flash suppressor for the "Yugo" Krinks? (7.62x39) (Threads are slightly larger than the Standard "Krinks"...) Thanks all, E! |
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Originally Posted By Mbsk01:
The problem is regular members being able to access the archived threads. What info were you looking for and I'll see if I can find it. What's the story on Joeken? |
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Aaaaah… Pig iron, your musk is that of glorious industry …
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Many folks had bad experiences with them when ordering (wrong item, misplaced orders, etc.). And priceis a bit high. Their ordering service often leaves a lot to be desired. But if you're in AZ and visit them at the shows, there's never a problem and they have a lot of rare parts.
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Another FAQ is "What does the P/П stand for on the rear leaf/sight
P/П as seen on some models of AK is literally translated from Russian as "Straight Shot" and corresponds to a range of 350m. прямой выстрел - Straight Shot Source Прицельное приспособление АК состоит из прицела и мушки. Прицел — секторного типа, с расположением прицельной колодки в средней части оружия. Прицел проградуирован до 800 м (начиная с АКМ — до 1000 м) с шагом 100 м, кроме того на нём имеется деление, обозначенное буквой «П», обозначающее прямой выстрел и соответствующее дальности 350 м. Целик расположен на гривке прицела и имеет прорезь прямоугольной формы.[4] Мушка расположена у дульной части ствола, на массивном треугольном основании, «крыльями» которого она укрыта с боков. Во время приведения автомата к нормальному бою мушку можно ввинчивать/вывинчивать для повышения/понижения средней точки попадания, а также передвигать влево/вправо для отклонения средней точки попадания по горизонтали.[4] На некоторые модификации АК при необходимости возможна установка оптического или ночного прицела на боковом кронштейне Translated AK sighting device consists of a sight and foresight. Sight - sector type, with the location of the sighting block in the middle of the weapons.The sight is scaled up to 800 m (from AKM - up to 1000 m) with a spacing of 100 m, in addition to it there is division, marked by the letter "P" denotes a straight shot and a corresponding range of 350 m lies entirely on Grivko sight and has a rectangular slotform [4]. The front sight is located at the muzzle of the barrel, on a massive triangular base,"wings" of which it is nestled on the sides. At the time of bringing the machine to a normal battle you can fly to screw / unscrew to increase / decrease of the mean point of impact, and move left / right to reject the mean point of impact horizontally. [4] On some modifications of the AK, if necessary or possible to install an optical night sight on the side arm |
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thanks...I hate being a neewb
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Bump for forum cleanup.
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"Site Staff remembers when you could buy a keg of musket balls for $1.75"
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I browsed the FAQ list and I didn't see anything about stamped vs. milled. This is probably a dumb question but I got my AKS in 1987 after graduating from Basic and I just shot the heck out of it for all of these years in its stock condition. It is a Norinco side folder just like this:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_4_93/147781_Norinco_Type_56S_2_side_folder.html and I want to change out the stock but I need to know if it is stamped or milled in order to get the right one and to be honest with you I have zero idea how to tell the difference. Thanks for your help! |
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